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,Not the greatest, but had a damn long career, and was pretty good, worth a mention here.

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Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Archie Manning was probably the best qb that played on a continually crap team.



Dad was a big Sonny Jurgensen fan and said that about him. He had the highest passer rating of any qb in his era (pre 1978). Lombardi who coached Sonny and the Redskins one year stated that had he had Sonny in Green Bay, they would have never lost a game. His career was plagued by injuries and crap teams. Another thing to consider is that in those days QB's called the plays. Manning probably called his own plays. IIRC, Tom Landry (one of the great innovative coaches ever) was the first one that started having plays called from the sidelines and Roger Staubach didn't like it.

I used to love pro football back then. Maybe it was better, maybe it was because I was just a kid and the players and coaches seemed bigger than life. Its sorta boring now.

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Just the fact that many are posting a list of very good QBs to the question of *Greatest All-Time" clearly shows that this answer cannot accurately be quantified.


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Another vote for Fran Tarkington!

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Earl Morral hardly ever is mentioned, but pulled off some amazing things as a QB.

Maybe we could one day talk about the toughest QBs in pro football. I'd mention Jeff George, who I think spent more time looking up at the sky flat on his back tjan any other when he was at Indy. Took a lickin or three and kept on tickin.


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One thing that has to be considered: the Player should be able to transcend eras.
No way in hell Brady survives like he does now. They changed rules of contact to the point guys now, especially him, can play forever without serious injury. Surgery used to end a career.

Something to think about.

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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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1.Tom Brady
2.Joe Montana
3.Joe Namath.

Several have noted great defensive players but if Derrick Thomas was coming off the edge it was a long penalty filled day for the O line.

Manning's have been noted but I can't root for our enemy on the 3rd Saturday in October Roll Tide!


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Originally Posted by HawkI
One thing that has to be considered: the Player should be able to transcend eras.
No way in hell Brady survives like he does now. They changed rules of contact to the point guys now, especially him, can play forever without serious injury. Surgery used to end a career.

Something to think about.


Yep. Along with my earlier Dick Butkus comment I'll add that the current guys wouldn't like an unfettered Deacon Jones coming for them either.

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Paul Brown invented the face mask because Otto Graham literally lost his face. And I believe he was out of bounds.

Dont think Tom Terrific would sign up for that. I could be wrong, but I doubt it...

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Nobody has mentioned Aikman, the best pocket passer of all tome. He’s not the best Q B of all time but he is several lengths ahead of some others mentioned on this thread.


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Originally Posted by djs
My selection is Johnny Unitas.+



Winner, and in an era when QBs were targets. Next is Montana. Look what he accomplished after his back was broken. shocked


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You guys saying Brady ain't tough are wrong. He'll stand in there and take the punishment with the best of them. He's also extremely durable , he missed that one season when he tore his knee up but is always ready to go it seems like.

Give the guy a break, he can't help it that he's not as ugly as Bradshaw.

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Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
You guys saying Brady ain't tough are wrong. He'll stand in there and take the punishment with the best of them. He's also extremely durable , he missed that one season when he tore his knee up but is always ready to go it seems like.

Give the guy a break, he can't help it that he's not as ugly as Bradshaw.


After his knee got tore up, the NFL made the hit zone on a QB about 6 inches.

Bradshaw got hit in the face with helmets,head slapped with casts.

Maybe if he got hit like Bradshaw, hed be that ugly. He hasnt been hit so hard he lost teeth yet...and wont. Totally different era.

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brett favre. cut off his arms and legs and pound for pound he’s still the best torso in the league


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