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On Velocity..........just crazy but safe to watch <grin>
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In case you are like me and wondering what that is all about, it is a motorcycle race. More info here if one is a motorcycle racer https://www.iomtt.com/
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My son and I went to the TT in 2016, unreal.
No price gouging, taxis were around $10 per, 24/7, Princes George’s FC campground 200 yards from the pits and finish line, $18/night including hot showers, breakfast kiosk with coffee, tea and good food at modest price on- site. Friendly people, leave anything out at the camp and it’s all there when you get back.
No security posted at the pits, the general public can and does wander the pits between events. The same mood of trust and responsibility applies to the whole 37 mile race course, all on public roads. One could do the whole return trip inc food, lodging, flights, rail and ferry for around $3,500, easy.
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I read the other day they had their 147th fatality. Must have been during qualifying? Ain't no puzzies in that race.
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FAR too dangerous of a race coarse , FAR too many young men killed there .
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"FAR too many young men killed there" Go save them. Go now.
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"FAR too many young men killed there" Go save them. Go now. And don't forget your helmet...
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This is still the coolest thing on wheels. And I think the number of men killed on the course is 250 not 150. I might be wrong. As someone posted on here about this last year, they are a different breed of men.
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FAR too dangerous of a race coarse , FAR too many young men killed there . They know the dangers beforehand. How many deaths would be acceptable, in your opinion?
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It's lethal and may be the most beautiful motor race you'll ever see. Even not there, just on television, it's stunning.
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FAR too dangerous of a race coarse , FAR too many young men killed there . They know the dangers beforehand. How many deaths would be acceptable, in your opinion? Young guys will do nearly anything for a thrill and to compete - full of pisss n vinegar . ''Deaths'' hopefully none but I know what a safe race coarse is - being that I've road raced and ridden hundreds of laps at talledaga grand prix motorcycle track - Roebling road S. Carolina , once at Barber a few times at No Problem Raceway in La. . Rode MX for 30 years too . - so I know what a safe track is and what isn't .
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PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
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One rider killed this week in practice. There has been at least one fatality every year I can remember. It’s a risk they are willing to take, obviously, and more power to them....
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FAR too dangerous of a race coarse , FAR too many young men killed there . They know the dangers beforehand. How many deaths would be acceptable, in your opinion? Young guys will do nearly anything for a thrill and to compete - full of pisss n vinegar . ''Deaths'' hopefully none but I know what a safe race coarse is - being that I've road raced and ridden hundreds of laps at talledaga grand prix motorcycle track - Roebling road S. Caralina , once at Barber a few times at No Problem Raceway in La. . Rode MX for 30 years too . - so I know what a safe track is and what isn't . You simply can't take the danger out of many sports. No one is forced to race the TT. Whether it's free solo rock climbing, base jumping or the IOM, some venues have no room for error. For those who wish to accept those dangers, I don't see society having the right to outlaw them.
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You simply can't take the danger out of many sports. .... “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.” — Ernest Hemingway
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FAR too dangerous of a race coarse , FAR too many young men killed there . They know the dangers beforehand. How many deaths would be acceptable, in your opinion? Young guys will do nearly anything for a thrill and to compete - full of pisss n vinegar . ''Deaths'' hopefully none but I know what a safe race coarse is - being that I've road raced and ridden hundreds of laps at talledaga grand prix motorcycle track - Roebling road S. Caralina , once at Barber a few times at No Problem Raceway in La. . Rode MX for 30 years too . - so I know what a safe track is and what isn't . You simply can't take the danger out of many sports. No one is forced to race the TT. Whether it's free solo rock climbing, base jumping or the IOM, some venues have no room for error. For those who wish to accept those dangers, I don't see society having the right to outlaw them. Build a racetrack with NO run off space , solid barriers everywhere , sidewalks , fans [dumbasses] sitting on the outside corner of a high speed corner and see how many FIM/AMA/WERA events are held there . I've heard people say -- I just go for the wrecks -- some people like to see wrecks for some reason and bikes/cars destroyed I guess . If the track was in the southeast or a place similar I'd have suited up and raced it up until about 15 years ago , but when you mature a bit - seeing young lads dead isn't fun .
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Safe race courses, gun free zones, women in combat roles, gay sex, safety lids on soap boxes. SNORK
Harden the fug up, risk builds character.
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You’ve heard people say they “just go for the wrecks?”.
That would be a tough gig, the course is 37 miles long, and from any given spot at most you can see a couple of hundred yards of the course, many places less.IIRC there were five deaths when I was there in 2016, most during training runs the week before I was there. I’m pretty sure I could spend my whole life spectating there every year and never actually witness a wreck.
More to the point it is far from a morbid pack of gouls that go, it’s more like a brotherhood. The nicest crowds I’ve ever been around, from all over the World.
To give you an idea of the place; 80,000 people actually live on the island, very much a Celtic society with their own language, currency and Statehood ( they were never in the EU). That many people, and a police force of about 30 Cops, if that. I was given to believe they don’t have Cop cars, rather they use magnetic decals on the regular vehicles being used as Cop cars at any given moment.
Everybody knows everybody, the Sargeant of the Police force was a big, bearded red-haired guy in his thirties (about like Mel Gibson’s buddy in Braveheart). He was also the cook at the food kiosk at our campground. In addition to that he was a course Marshall, out of sheer hospitality he took my son along one morning on a course inspection, the whole course, in an SUV with magnetic stick-on Cop decals on the doors.
I went there for the motorcycles, but was blown away by the people and the whole event, like nothing I’ve ever seen, and I grew up on the adjacent coast of the mainland, about 20 miles away as the seagull flies.
I’d recommend the TT for anybody, it’s like nothing you’ve ever seen.
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That TT is absolutely awesome! Dangerous, you had better believe it. These guys are going to race no matter what, so you may as well have a closed course and make it a production. What is stupid is the guys racing around and stunt riding on busy public highways.
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FAR too dangerous of a race coarse , FAR too many young men killed there . They know the dangers beforehand. How many deaths would be acceptable, in your opinion? Young guys will do nearly anything for a thrill and to compete - full of pisss n vinegar . ''Deaths'' hopefully none but I know what a safe race coarse is - being that I've road raced and ridden hundreds of laps at talledaga grand prix motorcycle track - Roebling road S. Caralina , once at Barber a few times at No Problem Raceway in La. . Rode MX for 30 years too . - so I know what a safe track is and what isn't . You simply can't take the danger out of many sports. No one is forced to race the TT. Whether it's free solo rock climbing, base jumping or the IOM, some venues have no room for error. For those who wish to accept those dangers, I don't see society having the right to outlaw them. Build a racetrack with NO run off space , solid barriers everywhere , sidewalks , fans [dumbasses] sitting on the outside corner of a high speed corner and see how many FIM/AMA/WERA events are held there . I've heard people say -- I just go for the wrecks -- some people like to see wrecks for some reason and bikes/cars destroyed I guess . If the track was in the southeast or a place similar I'd have suited up and raced it up until about 15 years ago , but when you mature a bit - seeing young lads dead isn't fun . This isn't a dedicated race track, it's country and village roads that have been hosting a race for 111 years. The race isn't for everyone, just as any sport where one mistake and your dead isn't for everyone. Life is richer because there are those who are willing to live life 100% with no guarantee they'll survive when they push the limits. Life is cheapened when society imposes the limitations of the weakest upon the greatest.
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