Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Ky. Creationists build Noahs Ark (complete with dinosaurs)

That’s pretty cool except for the dinosaurs. I don’t recall Noah mentioning them in the Old Testament.

And if I’d have been Noah, we wouldn’t have any rattlesnakes today

Men.... explaining miracles!?!?!?!?!?

Yeah. Only Disney should get tax incentives.

Exactly.

Of course the news man doesn't take time to explain those tax incentives are given for the purposes of stimulating the economy.

And let's not mention that if you view it as a church, every fugking church gets enormous tax breaks. This one just happens to be in the shape of an old ass boat.

It has exceeded them. First year 325,000 were expected, a little over 1 million attended. They're on there way to 1.5 to 2 million coming up.

Hotels and restaurants are apparently booming. Can't be having all that and tax incentives. Not when there needs to be more rainbow crosswalks painted in Lexington and millions of dollars spent tearing done Confederate memorials.

I'd want a bit of a bow, it would allow it to hold a 'course', not swing around willy nilly.

I’ll try.

For entertainment’s sake assume the Biblical record is true..as far as it goes; that is, it gives us a broad outline within which we can do some speculating and filling in the story. Although much less speculating is needed now than before because of various discoveries.

The earth (I’ll stay local) is 6-10k years old judging from the creation account and moving forward by the Biblical genealogies as given in Genesis and Luke to name two accounts. The account in Luke is claimed by some to have some gaps which extend the age from six thousand to possibly ten thousand. But who’s quibbling?

It is questioned that the world-wide Flood (the pouring from above and the fountains breaking forth from below) was such a catastrophic event that the world we see post-flood is completely different than the antediluvian environment. Pre-flood, the world might have been one giant land mass— a super continent of a semi-tropical, or moderate climate, shrouded in a radiation-deflecting atmosphere (perhaps one reason the antediluvians were so long-lived (Noah didn’t start building the ark until he was three hundred years old and lived into the 600’s). Radiation decay rates of radiometric materials rate might have greatly varied and increased during this time giving us these false numbers today based on uniformitarianism — the concept underlying modern geology and which holds all things have continued on from old at the same slow rate. Another words, today’s decay rate is the same as five thousand years ago, the same as ten million years ago. That has not been and cannot be proven.

So there were no poles; no penguins for example. There were general “kinds” (Biblical term) then of much greater genetic information and much fewer in number than species now. The kinds, for example were the “bear kind”, the “dog kind” etc, which when the continents separated, and the ensuing ice age came resulted in specific species by environmental selective breeding (or survival). We can do that now selectively, artificially, in large animals, creating a different (not species) breed in several hundred years time.

So Noah didn’t have to load as many animals up as some here say. And since this was all supernaturally done anyway, God moved these creatures to the ark. Noah watched.

The ark was speculated to be barge-like as it didn’t have to sail but just float and a rectangular shape affords a much more efficacious use of space than a vessel with a tapered bow or stern.

I would suggest reading of Genesis and Henry Morris’ THE GENESIS FLOOD. Of course this is the young earth view. Not all Christians are young-earthers.

It didn't need to hold a course. There was nowhere to go and no propulsion was needed to go nowhere. It only needed to stay afloat for a year. The simplest design that did that would have been the best.

I drive by it quite often - or at least the exit for it. IIRC its pretty close to the Kentucky Speedway and there are some supporting business that have popped up around it - Zipline, a couple of restaurants, etc

I don't have any desire to see it but I think the larger plan has been for this to be an anchor to develop other family oriented attractions.

Also, Cincinnati is home to the creation museum so the two kind of go hand in hand in their target demographic.

Those who believe the Ark story was meant to be taken as a literal event in history that encompassed the entire planet are those who have zero interest in, or (alternatively) ability to learn, the fundamentals of the life sciences.

I believe they just finished it, at least to the point they can show it.

They claim that they didn't have to have every species. They claim that, for example, one species of cat could have been preserved on the ark, and then once off the ark, could have then divided into the many species of both big and small cat we know today. Same with canids, etc.. Preposterous, of course, since ancient civilizations recorded many of those species existing as they do today right around the period of time that the world-wide flood was supposed to have happened and thereafter. Assuming, even, that the flood happened just before those records, that's pretty rapid division and change in a species, from tiny cats, to the pumas, tigers, leopards, lions, etc.., not to mention the many we only know from the fossil record.

There are scientific proofs of massive flooding all over the world. Entire mammoths have been unearthed with food still undigested in their stomachs. Look at the Grand Canyon, it was a flood, not over millions of years. Look at where the coal and oil deposits are. Flooding placed them there. It says in the Bible, that there were no seasons before the flood. The seasons started afterward. Probably a giant asteroid hit the earth hard enough to cause it to wobble on its axis causing the seasons, and massive flooding and climate change, like tsunamis, and rain. It also says the animals were herbivores, not carnivores, before the flood. Panda bears eat bamboo, even though they are capable of digesting meat. Massive deposits of fossil animals have been found world wide indicating massive flooding. Every civilization from India, China, Middle East, Egypt, all tell of massive flooding stories.

You’re starting to sound like a Floridian.

Really!? How can you be so sure of what you don’t know?

About those frozen mammoths...They've found some so intact that the meat was still edible. They've eaten it, in very small morsels, of course. They've also found blooming,undigested flowering plants in their stomachs. You guys are all hunters. You all know about freezer burn. It's preventable by completely eliminating air from the meat. An excellent method is to immerse it in water and freeze it. It will last many years that way if kept frozen. The mammoth meat was immersed in water which froze, preserving them nicely. However, that leaves the problem of the flowers they were eating. The climate was warm enough for flowers to bloom so how did they get encased in ice? Plus, they had to have been immersed and frozen before the meat spoiled. From warm to sub-zero in maybe 2 or 3 days?

Something catastrophic had to have happened all across the northern high latitudes to dramatically drop the temperatures and cover the animals with water at the same time, all in a few days time before the meat spoiled. The Bible describes the pre-flood earth as having been surrounded by a moisture cover. It says that up to the time of the flood, it had never rained. A sudden breakdown of that layer of moisture, dumping all that water to the ground, would cause rapid evaporation which would cool it fast, possibly enough to change a warm greenhouse climate to the arctic climate we have today.

everybody knows Jesus was metric!

Maybe 510 feet?


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