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They didn't need to. Hillary's personal server was secure, right?
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
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Good point. I have no doubt whatsoever that the Russians meddled in the 2016 election, there is just too much proof that they did..... I have seen very little proof. Lots of opinion, but little proof. I do not doubt that they meddled, but for Who, and to what extent. I also figure that meddling was on their own, and has been going on for several years, just as the US meddles in foreign affairs. Sometimes openly, and sometimes covert. I also doubt that it had any effect on the outcome of the past Presidential election. miles Miles, unlike a lot of posters on here, I don't have the opinion that "our" side never does wrong, because I think there is very little difference in the two political parties when it comes to wrongdoing. Having said that, there is no doubt in my mind that the Russians did "mettle," or ever how you want to label it, in the election. Maybe it was to help Hillary and hurt Trump, or maybe it was the other way around.....but I don't think it mattered, as I think Hillary just had too much baggage.
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Good point. I have no doubt whatsoever that the Russians meddled in the 2016 election, there is just too much proof that they did..... I have seen very little proof. Lots of opinion, but little proof. I do not doubt that they meddled, but for Who, and to what extent. I also figure that meddling was on their own, and has been going on for several years, just as the US meddles in foreign affairs. Sometimes openly, and sometimes covert. I also doubt that it had any effect on the outcome of the past Presidential election. miles I don't think there is a "for who". I believe they were just sewing seeds of discontent. It appears they succeeded wildly.
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Aren't the Russians the biggest Commies in the world?
Aren't Dimmies the biggest Commies in our country?
I mean the Dimmies want full on socialism/communism...
Why would the biggest Commies not support the obvious spread of Communism in our country?
Would Russia rather deal with Trump or Hillary?
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
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Everyone, including the Ruskies believed that Hitlary was going to win the election, hence the Ruskies wanted to build a black mail archive of her criminal activity dealing with the Clinton Crime Family slush fund, so they could hold it over her head after she became President. They made sure to leave obvious "digital finger prints" on the hacking job so that it could easily be traced back to Russian operatives, to send a signal to the old witch that they had her by the cojones.
"All that the South has ever desired was that the Union, as established by our forefathers, should be preserved, and that the government, as originally organized, should be administered in purity and truth." – Robert E. Lee
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Aren't the Russians the biggest Commies in the world?
Aren't Dimmies the biggest Commies in our country?
I mean the Dimmies want full on socialism/communism...
Why would the biggest Commies not support the obvious spread of Communism in our country?
Would Russia rather deal with Trump or Hillary? That's right, Russia is still commie, despite all those Putin loving posters on here who say otherwise. I'm still not certain what they were hoping to accomplish by interfering in the election, but they're just doing what commies do, and that's trying to keep things stirred up. They know that dissension is one of their best weapons, and if they could create a rift between the American populace over the election, then it just played right into their hands. Look what's going in Washington, both sides pointing fingers, hurting Trump's presidency......Russia is eating it up.
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Let me get this straight. A guy who lost a presidential election wants to tell a guy who won a presidential election what to do. phuch him..
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It’s 2018 folks. Get used to cyber warfare. It’s not going away, ever. My own opinion is that China is in the lead.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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It’s 2018 folks. Get used to cyber warfare. It’s not going away, ever. My own opinion is that China is in the lead. Cyber warfare and social warfare. The social warfare isn't far removed from shooting, and may lead to it before long. Social warfare pretty much involves everyone. Because everyone has an opinion, one way or the other, they are emotionally drawn into it. That's what those idiot libtard trolls are doing here. Drawing us into the social war by offending our basest values.
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700LH: I can't help but surmise that "karma" has come home to roost on john mcCains life!
He is now a sad and pathetic shadow of his once admirable self - and not because of his disease - because of his backstabbing horrible conduct of the last many years.
Shame on john mcCain.
Hold into the wind
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It’s 2018 folks. Get used to cyber warfare. It’s not going away, ever. My own opinion is that China is in the lead. my guess is we are.....bob
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Russia today is not communist...they have private property and mostly a capitalist economy
it is primarily an oligarchy , with Putin in control
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Russia today is not communist...they have private property and mostly a capitalist economy
it is primarily an oligarchy , with Putin in control It's more complicated than that. The by far, most popular political party in Russia is the "United Russia" party. By like 75% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_RussiaThe party platform itself is confusing. Much like the democrats here. Party platform
According to the party's 2003 political manifesto, The Path of National Success, the party's goal is to unite the responsible political forces of the country, aiming to minimize the differences between rich and poor, young and old, state, business and society. The economy should combine state regulation and market freedoms, with the benefits of further growth distributed for the most part to the less fortunate. The party rejects left-wing and right-wing ideologies in favour of "political centrism" that could unite all sections of society.[29] In addition, the official party platform emphasizes pragmatism and anti-radicalism. The party regards itself to be one of the heirs to Russia's tradition of statehood, both tsarist and communist.[55] United Russia's long-time moniker is "the party of real deeds".[56]
United Russia has always characterised itself as wholly supportive of the agenda of the popular current President Vladimir Putin and this has proved key to its success. In short, they are a contradiction in terms of what they stand for.
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let me get this straight, John mclame wants PRESIDENT TRUMP to hold Putin accountable for Russian meddling. The same John Mclame that got the Dossier from the Russians ? shut up and go away John.
the consolidation of the states into one vast republic, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of that ruin which has overwhelmed all those that have preceded. Robert E Lee
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