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So why is every one in power all riled up about it it has been going on for a long time? Is it just because Trump won? My question is this why not make it an act of war and be done with it. so it will trigger automatic response.
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It didn't go the way they wanted. This is the tantrum.
Never heard a word when oskumbum meddled in elections around the world.
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So why is every one in power all riled up about it it has been going on for a long time? Is it just because Trump won? My question is this why not make it an act of war and be done with it. so it will trigger automatic response. Yes, it was because Trump won....don't you remember Obama saying he told "Vlad" to knock it off???? An act of war??? Yeah, that'd work....You do know that it's called the world wide web right??? You do realize that we have foreign members here on the fire???.....JStuart could start WW 3....??? IIRC he posted some disparaging schitt about Hillary.....
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Hillary meddled in the elections, otherwise Trump would have ran against Bernie Sanders.
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Hillary meddled in the elections, otherwise Trump would have ran against Bernie Sanders. Yup
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It is hybrid warfare and next time it might be the RNC's turn in the barrel. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/09/05/gerasimov-doctrine-russia-foreign-policy-215538In February 2013, General Valery GerasimovâRussiaâs chief of the General Staff, comparable to the U.S. chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staffâpublished a 2,000-word article, âThe Value of Science Is in the Foresight,â in the weekly Russian trade paper Military-Industrial Kurier. Gerasimov took tactics developed by the Soviets, blended them with strategic military thinking about total war, and laid out a new theory of modern warfareâone that looks more like hacking an enemyâs society than attacking it head-on. He wrote: âThe very ârules of warâ have changed. The role of nonmilitary means of achieving political and strategic goals has grown, and, in many cases, they have exceeded the power of force of weapons in their effectiveness. ⌠All this is supplemented by military means of a concealed character.
The article is considered by many to be the most useful articulation of Russiaâs modern strategy, a vision of total warfare that places politics and war within the same spectrum of activitiesâphilosophically, but also logistically. The approach is guerrilla, and waged on all fronts with a range of actors and toolsâfor example, hackers, media, businessmen, leaks and, yes, fake news, as well as conventional and asymmetric military means. Thanks to the internet and social media, the kinds of operations Soviet psy-ops teams once could only fantasize aboutâupending the domestic affairs of nations with information aloneâare now plausible. The Gerasimov Doctrine builds a framework for these new tools, and declares that non-military tactics are not auxiliary to the use of force but the preferred way to win. That they are, in fact, the actual war. Chaos is the strategy the Kremlin pursues: Gerasimov specifies that the objective is to achieve an environment of permanent unrest and conflict within an enemy state.
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I have wondered the same thing. Why is Russian interference in our election such a big deal. We do it to other countries and they do it to us. I came to the conclusion,the only reason it matters is because hitlery lost the election. Like gregintenn said, even hitlery meddled in the election, otherwise Trump would have defeated bernie.
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It's not that they meddled, it's that they got caught. Lots of things are done "wink-wink" in the international arena. They aren't mentioned until someone is caught. The Russians used to be really good at this stuff but it seems like they've been getting caught a lot lately. First with their troops in Ukraine, the poisonings in Great Britain and now this. Are they becoming amateurish or do they just not care because they know that no one will rock the boat and stand up to them. You know, the whole "peace in our time" crap.
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Are you guys really so slow you can't put this together with a president who'd have been impeached but for his resignation for trying to rig an election?
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So why is every one in power all riled up about it it has been going on for a long time? Is it just because Trump won? My question is this why not make it an act of war and be done with it. so it will trigger automatic response. The US has meddled in a number of elections and even overthrown legitimately elected governments (Iran, Guatemala, Chile). But, it has never been rewarded by the elected leader (e.g., President) stating that he didn't believe it occurred. Putin wins on this count!
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The US has meddled in a number of elections and even overthrown legitimately elected governments (Iran, Guatemala, Chile). But, it has never been rewarded by the elected leader (e.g., President) stating that he didn't believe it occurred. Putin wins on this count! You still pissed because Hillary,the lesbian whore who licks Humma's Muslim crotch,didn't win? Haahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
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So why is every one in power all riled up about it it has been going on for a long time? Is it just because Trump won? My question is this why not make it an act of war and be done with it. so it will trigger automatic response. The US has meddled in a number of elections and even overthrown legitimately elected governments (Iran, Guatemala, Chile). But, it has never been rewarded by the elected leader (e.g., President) stating that he didn't believe it occurred. Putin wins on this count! Folks like you, Jeff O and others on an outdoors forum has always made me wonder how a brain like yours is wired. I know its not following any factory schematic for sure.
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I think the focus should be on making it more dififcult to meddle in future United States elections.
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Can we get a description of what constitutes "meddling".
A dozen people on social media posting crazy things to get a response?
If that is it, a bunch o people on this board are meddlers!
We have spent how many millions indicting Facebook rabble rousers?
Or is it hacking an emails that the dnc said were never hacked, or a private email server that was said did not exist.
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I did not post this to get a reaction i posted this to get an honest Answer. but i know that the ones that do not ask questions will never be as smart as a lot of you here on the fire. and to the ones that know every thing you are a fool worse than i.
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I think the focus should be on making it more dififcult to meddle in future United States elections. I agree100%
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I think the focus should be on making it more dififcult to meddle in future United States elections. I agree100% Can we get a description of what constitutes "meddling".
A dozen people on social media posting crazy things to get a response?
If that is it, a bunch o people on this board are meddlers!
We have spent how many millions indicting Facebook rabble rousers?
Or is it hacking an emails that the dnc said were never hacked, or a private email server that was said did not exist.
there are 12 current indictments of Russian officials for election meddling, when it is state Sponsored should it be considered an act of war?
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If it is an act of war Obummer will have to be sent to Israel for trial. Ed k
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edk,
Actually, ODUMBO should be deported to Indonesia, where he openly/brazenly committed criminal perjury, when as a YM he swore under oath that he was a "native-born citizen of Indonesia", to get an Indonesian passport & student benefits. = NO "statute of limitations" for perjury there, either.
My friends, in Indonesia say that the courts have NOT forgotten his knowing/criminal perjury & would love to "throw the book at him" IF he was available to try for any criminal act.
(Muslim nations are NOT known for their forgiving attitude, reference criminals.)
yours, tex
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Yes. Didn't our powers make a significant and rather open effort to unseat Netanyahu an election or two back. From memory, he was not exhibiting the peaceful attitude that Obama was fostering.
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