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- Greg
Success is found at the intersection of planning, hard work, and stubbornness.
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A few more notes on the 3-15x42 Tract Toric:
As prairie goat noted, it's "yuge," just about exactly the same length and weight as a 6x42 SWFA, around 14" and 20 ounces. But as noted to him when discussing it, as a general rule I've found scopes need to weigh around 20 ounces to have accurate, long-lasting adjustments and hold zero.
On the plus side, the specs claim essentially no change in eye relief from 3x to 15x, from 3.9" at 3x to 3.85" at 15x. I checked this with a flashlight and it was spot-on. A lot of scope companies claim constant eye relief in variables, but generally the difference is at least 1/2".
The 2-10x42 Toric is noticeably smaller than the 3-15x, at 13.2" and 18.6 ounces. Both length and weight are very similar to the 3-9x42 SWFA, but the 3-10x42 Nightforce SHV is about 1-1/2" shorter, though slightly heavier.
The Torics come with a zero-stop kit that's easy to install, but limited to one full turn. It works similarly to the Leupold CDS system.
One problem some users have run into involves the windage turret interfering with case-ejection in some rifles with some mounts. But this isn't unique to Torics.
It would be nice if they'd offer more reticles in the 1" Torics. Tract offers MRAD/MRAD and MOA/MOA hashmarked reticles in the new 30mm scopes, but they're much yuger scopes than the 1" models.
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Thanks, Mule Deer, this is useful comparative data.
I bought a 2-10X42 Toric for the 6.5mm Creedmoor rifle that I hope will be assembled this year. Now I face the following questions:
1) Should I get a 3-15x42 Toric instead? 2) Should I get a 3-10x42 SHV instead? 3) Since my maximum range is 300 yards, should I just stay with the Meopta 6x42?
In my old age, I defy my own attempts to simplify my life.
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Campfire Kahuna
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Well, among the major problems with life-simplification is rifle and scope companies keep bring out new stuff....
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck
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Well, among the major problems with life-simplification is rifle and scope companies keep bring out new stuff.... ...and I keep bumping into neat old stuff
What fresh Hell is this?
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Well, among the major problems with life-simplification is rifle and scope companies keep bring out new stuff.... Truth!
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Prairie_Goat's comment about the eyepiece is spot on
Users will very likely have to go up a size on mounts compared to what they would normally use for scopes of similar size. I use low Talleys with a Leupold 6x42 and Burris Fullfield 3-9, but I have to use medium Talleys for the 2-10 Toric to cycle the bolt. This will not be a big deal for some, but a deal breaker for others.
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My son uses Warne mediums on his .260 CTR.
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
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Mine's (3-15) on a Sako A7 which has a shorter lift than duel lug bolt rifles. Low Talley's are fine. But I can see the point that's being made about the eye box..
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Well, among the major problems with life-simplification is rifle and scope companies keep bring out new stuff.... This^ might be the rifleman's creed. If you're gonna try to simplify a rifle loony's inventory, you should probably tackle that "how to understand women" thing first, just to get you warmed up for a real job. P.S. This thread probably needs to fade away, sorry for bumping it, I had forgotten what page I was on.
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