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The Bible says that Jesus was descended from David, King of Israel. Jesus was Jewish. Case closed. Don't you know what I.N.R.I. stands for?
Along with much speculation that the lineages is incorrect and he was from the tribe of Ephraim. Besides that, what is your description of a Jew? The definition of a Jew has radically changed since Christ, as I explained earlier. Those who call themselves Jews today are not the people of the prophets, David, Abraham, the priesthood, etc.. Jesus was. Remember that Jesus said that those who reject him also, by so doing, reject Abraham, Moses, etc.., because those people point directly to him being the Messiah. If Jesus said it, it's not mere theory, but something that must be accepted as true by Christians. Therefore, those calling themselves Jewish today are not actually Jews by the standards of the time Christ walked the earth. PS Jew comes from the tradition of referring to Hebrews as Jews due to that tribe being the only remaining tribe after the northern half of the Kingdom of David disappeared, and since that tribe lived in the southern kingdom called Judea, which remained till the Romans destroyed it and booted them out.
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ADL is an anti-Christian hate group. So is SPLC. They use Saul Alinsky's tactic of shaming people in order to mold their opinions & beliefs. ADL forgot to mention that the destruction of South Africa was orchestrated in Tel Aviv by diamond merchants. Now every South African diamond moves through Tel Aviv. Most Americans are too stupid to vote; many are 'fire posters. They declare that they know what's impossible to know: what happened during the Holocaust. Askenazi Jews are not Semitic; hence, they are not descendants of Abraham, who was Hebrew and not Jewish. Hebrew and Jewish are not synonymous nouns. Ashkenazi Jews have no historical claim to what was once Palestine. Palestinians are Semitic. Americans are the easiest people on Earth to propagandize. Americans will sell their children to avoid being called anti-Semitic regardless of underlying facts. And one underlying fact is Ashkenazi Jews with American support are genociding Palestinians. Ashkenazi Jews are Talmudic. The Talmud is a scheme to genocide Christians. American idiots are chasing the red herring of Sharia Law when they have no clue that they're living under Talmudic Law that will genocide them. Talmudic Judaism is a cult. It is not a religion. BiBi Nuttyyahoo is a psychopath who wants to declare Israel a Talmudic state, which would officially end American sovereignty. BiBi Nuttyyahoo runs the USA, not our government. He wants your sons to die in an Iranian desert while Ashkenazi Jews boys are banging your daughters. American boys will be duped into dying for Israel's Oded Yinon's Plan, while Ashkenazi Jew boys are banging your daughters at Palm Beach. Iran is not a threat to the USA & it'll never be a threat to the USA. It has a Third World military. It couldn't attack us if it wanted. ADL, SPLC, and AIPAC should be RICO'd. They're anti-Christian and anti-American cartels. Anti-Semitism is cheap gimmick to prevent Americans from questing for truth. mein gott in himmel! whose sock-puppet is this? Col.Klink?
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The Bible says that Jesus was descended from David, King of Israel. Jesus was Jewish. Case closed. Don't you know what I.N.R.I. stands for?
Along with much speculation that the lineages is incorrect and he was from the tribe of Ephraim. Besides that, what is your description of a Jew? The Bible says that Jesus was descended from David, King of Israel. Jesus was Jewish. Case closed. Don't you know what I.N.R.I. stands for?
Along with much speculation that the lineages is incorrect and he was from the tribe of Ephraim. Besides that, what is your description of a Jew? From where did you get this gem?
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The Bible says that Jesus was descended from David, King of Israel. Jesus was Jewish. Case closed. Don't you know what I.N.R.I. stands for?
Along with much speculation that the lineages is incorrect and he was from the tribe of Ephraim. Besides that, what is your description of a Jew? So...if the lineage of Jesus. Is incorrect, which other parts of the New Testament do you think are incorrect? It's not my job to define what is a Jew. A cursory reading of the Bible discloses that Jesus certainly thought he was a Jew. Ask him.
Don't blame me. I voted for Trump.
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We are still back to what are you considering a jew? TRH gave one for instance, do you have one? From where did you get this gem? A close reading of Matthew and Luke shows their differences and that is just in the New Testament. This "gem" has been around for a very long time.
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Born of a Jewish mother who, among other things was observant of Jewish purity laws following his birth, circumcised according to Jewish law, given a Jewish name, going to Jerusalem for the Passover, studying Torah in the Temple, and even holding the Jewish profession of faith, the Shema, to be the most important commandment: 28 One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”
29 “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. (Mark 12: 28-9) There can be no doubt that Jesus was Jewish.
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Born of a Jewish mother who, among other things was observant of Jewish purity laws following his birth, circumcised according to Jewish law, given a Jewish name, going to Jerusalem for the Passover, studying Torah in the Temple, and even holding the Jewish profession of faith, the Shema, to be the most important commandment: 28 One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”
29 “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. (Mark 12: 28-9) There can be no doubt that Jesus was Jewish. So Jesus believes his mistreatment and crucifixion was a just punishment for his blasphemy and devil worship? That's an article of faith for Jews today. He certainly didn't believe that, nor does he today, thus he is not a Jew by today's definition. He was, however, a Jew by the accepted definition during his time on earth, while those today calling themselves Jews fail that definition by a long shot, since, by embracing the Talmud (which rejects Christ), they reject God, the Prophets, Moses, Abraham, etc., says Jesus.
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Born of a Jewish mother who, among other things was observant of Jewish purity laws following his birth, circumcised according to Jewish law, given a Jewish name, going to Jerusalem for the Passover, studying Torah in the Temple, and even holding the Jewish profession of faith, the Shema, to be the most important commandment: 28 One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”
29 “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. (Mark 12: 28-9) There can be no doubt that Jesus was Jewish. So Jesus believes his mistreatment and crucifixion was a just punishment for his blasphemy and devil worship? That's an article of faith for Jews today. He certainly didn't believe that, nor does he today, thus he is not a Jew by today's definition. He was, however, a Jew by the accepted definition during his time on earth, while those today calling themselves Jews fail that definition by a long shot, since, by embracing the Talmud (which rejects Christ), they reject God, the Prophets, Moses, Abraham, etc., says Jesus. Wow, you really are a wrong headed sort, aren't you? Apparently you know as little of the gospels as you do of Judaism. Just for starters, Jesus wasn't executed for "blasphemy and devil worship". He was executed by the Roman civil authority for claiming to be King of the Jews, on presentment from the Sanhedrin. He didn't argue against that charge at trial, had gone to Jerusalem knowing that he was to be betrayed, tried and executed, and accepted it. You should read about it. The gospels would be a good start. So much of what you post is just utter nonsense, it really is hard to take anything you post even a little bit seriously.
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Apparently you know as little of the gospels as you do of Judaism.
Just for starters, Jesus wasn't executed for "blasphemy and devil worship". He was executed by the Roman civil authority for claiming to be King of the Jews, on presentment from the Sanhedrin. He didn't argue against that charge at trial, had gone to Jerusalem knowing that he was to be betrayed, tried and executed, and accepted it. You should read about it. The gospels would be a good start.
So much of what you post is just utter nonsense, it really is hard to take anything you post even a little bit seriously. Odd, then, that the Talmud states quite plainly that it was the Jews who arranged for his execution by their manipulation of a Roman official. This matches nicely with the account in the Gospels as well: "Then gathered the chief priests and the Pharisees a council, and said, What do we? for this man doeth many miracles. If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation. And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all, Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not ... Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to death." - John 11:47-50 Additionally, against your above assertion: "The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God." - John 10:33 "But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils." - Matthew 12:24 Then, Paul, too was under the impression that the Jews crucified him. For example, when the High Priest chastised him for preaching a prohibited doctrine (i.e., the Gospel), Paul accused him and his ilk of having slayed Jesus by hanging him on a tree (referring to the wooden cross). - Acts 5:27-30. The Roman state was merely the tool of his execution chosen by the Jews, because it was against Roman law for them to execute anyone on their own authority.
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