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to be honest if you become a decent handloader the 30-06 is all you would need with all the variety and grain sizes of bullets, spend the extra money on a nightforce scope and forget the takedown barrel thing.but get a 30-06 with a good 26 inch barrel and bed the plastic stock too.
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to be honest if you become a decent handloader the 30-06 is all you would need with all the variety and grain sizes of bullets, spend the extra money on a nightforce scope and forget the takedown barrel thing.but get a 30-06 with a good 26 inch barrel and bed the plastic stock too. Other than the barrel length, I agree.
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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I once found a similar fishing camp on the South end of Paxson Lake. Ouch! Not sure how I missed this... but much truth there...
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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to be honest if you become a decent handloader the 30-06 is all you would need with all the variety and grain sizes of bullets, spend the extra money on a nightforce scope and forget the takedown barrel thing.but get a 30-06 with a good 26 inch barrel and bed the plastic stock too. Other than the barrel length, I agree. And I probably want them even shorter than you!
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I once found a similar fishing camp on the South end of Paxson Lake. Ouch! Not sure how I missed this... but much truth there... You one of these Rancid Crabtree-type guys SD? 😉
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I once found a similar fishing camp on the South end of Paxson Lake. Ouch! Not sure how I missed this... but much truth there... You one of these Rancid Crabtree-type guys SD? 😉 My boat is named the garbage scow... My deck hand is afraid of bears and has no knees... My tent is soaked in bacon grease... We seem to attract the crusty sort... So yeah...
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I once found a similar fishing camp on the South end of Paxson Lake. Ouch! Not sure how I missed this... but much truth there... You one of these Rancid Crabtree-type guys SD? 😉 My boat is named the garbage scow... My deck hand is afraid of bears and has no knees... My tent is soaked in bacon grease... We seem to attract the crusty sort... So yeah... So Reb and I are "crusty"......that's almost a term of endearment in this neighborhood!
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Delivered strictly with the greatest respect possible, given the attendees...
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I have never hunted Alaska so I am not use to using shorter barrel rifles but can kinda understand why. myself with my own handloads I just like a longer barrel to get better ballistics for a longer shot ,when I do hunt Alaska we will be in the open tundra area more. as a gun dealer a do have a new Browning BLR 7 Rem. mag with a 24 inch barrel on order,but if that rifle does not shoot well or does not show up I will order and purchase a Remington s.s. 7 mag with a 26 inch barrel. my reasons are they sell better in Minnesota and if I keep the rifle for myself, out west long barrels for good ballistics work best. > But Alaskan hunters who live in that fine state know what they need to use for rifles and barrel lengths more then us non-resident hunters who just show up to hunt for a few weeks,but I am still using my longer barrel rifle ,rather its right or wrong.
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If a 7-08 is enough to get it done well, why go to a 7mag and then hang a long barrel on it? Squeezing everything you can out of a case that is already too big makes sense because?
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While, earlier, I mentioned a spec’d .375 as my choice, I can’t find a thing wrong with a 30/06 with about a 21” tube coming to ~ 7.5 lbs with optics, rings and bases. I wouldn’t go any heavier for this set-up and might go lighter, but that’s just me.
Realizing for some it would be a one-and-only rifle, I’d try to find the best load with the 168-165-gr TTSX’s
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to be honest if you become a decent handloader the 30-06 is all you would need with all the variety and grain sizes of bullets, spend the extra money on a nightforce scope and forget the takedown barrel thing.but get a 30-06 with a good 26 inch barrel and bed the plastic stock too. Other than the barrel length, I agree. And I probably want them even shorter than you! So you’re saying you prefer em barely legal? 😆. Hmmm?
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Legal is legal. No such thang as 'barely' legal, pard!  ETA: "leagle" for some members here.
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If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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Legal is legal. No such thang as 'barely' legal, pard! ETA: "leagle" for some members here. That’s what she said........... before. (God, I’m glad I don’t worry about that anymore. ...., for myself anyway. )
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You're alleged mind goes some unusual places!
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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While, earlier, I mentioned a spec’d .375 as my choice, I can’t find a thing wrong with a 30/06 with about a 21” tube coming to ~ 7.5 lbs with optics, rings and bases. I wouldn’t go any heavier for this set-up and might go lighter, but that’s just me.
Realizing for some it would be a one-and-only rifle, I’d try to find the best load with the 168-165-gr TTSX’s
Nothing wrong with a 180-grain partition at the .30-06 fps. For me and a lot of hunters in Alaska, anything from the .30-06 to the .338WM is plenty, since most game shot with it is around 50 to perhaps 150 yards. With the .300WM fps there is nothing wrong with the 165-180 grains TTSX, and so the 225-grain TTSX with the .338WM. The latter is my do all setup in Alaska, although a 250-grain Partition has been the bullet of choice for many years. But then I can't forget about a lot of people who for many years have been using .223s and .30-30s to hunt moose, some bears, and caribou. This makes me think that while the .30-06, .300WM, .338WM, and the 7mm Magnum are the most widely used in Alaska, the effectiveness of other rifle calibers aren't in any way diminished. Which one is best, is a matter of opinion.
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I have never hunted Alaska so I am not use to using shorter barrel rifles but can kinda understand why. myself with my own handloads I just like a longer barrel to get better ballistics for a longer shot ,when I do hunt Alaska we will be in the open tundra area more. as a gun dealer a do have a new Browning BLR 7 Rem. mag with a 24 inch barrel on order,but if that rifle does not shoot well or does not show up I will order and purchase a Remington s.s. 7 mag with a 26 inch barrel. my reasons are they sell better in Minnesota and if I keep the rifle for myself, out west long barrels for good ballistics work best. > But Alaskan hunters who live in that fine state know what they need to use for rifles and barrel lengths more then us non-resident hunters who just show up to hunt for a few weeks,but I am still using my longer barrel rifle ,rather its right or wrong. You have to choose the rifle that makes sense to you. As you have mentioned, you will be hunting with friends who use the .7mm Magnum, so in my view your rifle choice is not a bad idea.
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You're alleged mind goes some unusual places! Don’t ‘mind’ me then. I forgot I wasn’t posting on “hunters campfire”. 😏
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Well plenty of options for Alaska and a good 30-06 with the newer bullet options is a good gun, always ammo available. I prefer something a bit larger and a 300 Winchester mag or .338 win are probably the most common. My self I am kind of an odd ball, I have had quite a few and own a .300 win mag and a 8mm Remington Mag. I like the 8mm it will reach out there and although factory loads arent much to speed of unless you use double tap, Never used double tap but if true impressive.
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Distance, yards Bullet speed, f/s Energy, ft-lbf Vert. correction, inch Vert. correction, MOA
0.0 3202.1 4553.4 1.97 0.00
100.0 3008.9 4020.4 -0.94 -0.89
200.0 2824.5 3542.7 0.00 0.01
300.0 2647.6 3113.0 5.31 1.70
400.0 2478.0 2726.9 15.59 3.72
500.0 2315.6 2381.2 31.54 6.02
600.0 2159.8 2071.5 53.98 8.59
700.0 2010.8 1795.6 83.86 11.44
800.0 1868.4 1550.3 122.40 14.61
900.0 1732.6 1333.1 170.87 18.13
1000.0 1603.0 1141.1 230.98 22.06
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Here is the sledgehammer! A sectional density of .343 and plenty of power make this load a real heavyweight hammer on big game!
200yd. Zero
100yds - 1.7" high 2657fps / 3918ft/lbs
200yds - zero 2473fps / 3393ft/lbs
300yds - 7.4" low 2298fps / 2926ft/lbs
400yds - 21.5" low 2127fps / 2511ft/lbs
500yds - 43.2" low 1965fps / 2142ft/lbs
Caliber : 8mm Remington Magnum
Bullet : 250gr. Woodleigh Weldcore JSP
Ballistics : 2850fps - 4510 ft./lbs. - 26.0" bbl. Remington 700
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This is what the 8mm Rem. Mag. was supposed to be! A perfect flat shooting deer load!
Ballistics 200yd Zero
Distance, yards Bullet speed, f/s Energy, ft-lbf Vert. correction, inch Vert. correction, MOA
0.0 3477.7 4296.7 1.97 0.00
100.0 3258.5 3772.2 -0.63 -0.62
200.0 3050.5 3306.0 0.00 0.01
300.0 2851.4 2888.4 4.41 1.41
400.0 2660.4 2514.5 13.11 3.13
500.0 2477.7 2181.0 26.69 5.10
600.0 2303.1 1884.5 45.98 7.32
700.0 2136.5 1621.6 71.81 9.80
800.0 1977.7 1389.5 105.28 12.57
900.0 1826.4 1185.1 147.68 15.67
1000.0 1682.7 1006.0 200.47 19.14
Caliber : 8mm Remington Magnum
Bullet : 160gr Barnes TTSX Lead Free
Ballistics : 3475fps - 4292 ft./lbs. - 26.0" bbl. Remington 700
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