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The fast twist .220 Swift is even more of a good thing....

Barnes makes a bullet in .310 specifically for the 7.62x39. If you don't load your own, Doubletap Ammo loads them. There may be other ammo brands that carry that bullet and cal as well. Or you could use the lead-free ammo or bullets from Barnes, Nosler, or Hornady in 30-30, and there are others as well.

My choice would be a 223 loaded stiffly and shooting a Barnes TTSX or E-Tip. 223's are hell on deer. If you haven't seen it, you wouldn't believe it.

The 7.62 is similar to the 30-30 in performance, either would work. The recoil would not be much lower than a 243 but if building a rifle the 6mm BR would be about ideal with 80-85 grain mono bullets, the same for a 6x45 or 6x47mm. Nothing wrong with the fast and faster 22s either if legal.

A sorbathane recoil shoulder pad and a good butt pad might be enough. Try these first before going to a muzzle brake. Off a good rest I can use either shoulder but the left eye dominance causes issues for me sometimes, I have seen both off set scope mounts and off set gun stocks made to overcome this. I am probably looking at shoulder surgery some point in the future. Meanwhile glucosamine and hemp oil seem to help and when really bad I have resorted to a cortisone injection before hunting season.

Hornady makes a .30-30 Winchester LEVERevolution load with their 140gr MonoFlex bullet that's lead free.
http://thebiggamehuntingblog.com/30-30-winchester/

If you reload, try GS Custom bullets and reduce whatever recoil by probably 20%. CNC'd copper, so good in CA.

Wasn’t a believer until I saw it in action, but a 223 with a good bullet will be a fantastic option.

Then that's what I'd get. Trade into a 243 of some sort and run 80 gr. bullets in it.

223 with a 60 grain Nosler Partition works well for me......

Another vote for 80 grainers out of a 243 or 6 Creed.

Another vote here for the 60 gr. Partition in either a .223 or 22-250. I have taken many deer with both.

The OP is in California. He needs lead-free recommendations.

Like this:




A 50 grain TTSX at 3200 FPS through both shoulders is a dead deer.




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Kevin,

I have a similar shoulder situation to your own and have limited use of my right arm. I now use a PAST Field recoil pad to distribute the punishment over a larger surface area and have downsized to a .260 Remington utilizing 120 and 130 grain bullets at speeds around 2700 (no muzzle break, normal recoil pad, 7 1/2 lbs rifle). I have been able to shoot 40-75 shots in a session over the course of a couple hours without any pain or shoulder impingement whereas a couple rounds out of a 30-06 pretty much puts me out of commission. You may be interested in going a similar route in 24, 25, or 26 caliber based on what you know about your recoil tolerances as the killing ability of these calibers is better than the 22's. A 6mm Creedmoor shooting 90 gr with a recoil pad and vest is a mighty light kicker, especially if you roll your own. Good luck!

If you have a "LimbSaver" brand recoil pad installed, they are amazing absorbers, odds would be good you may not need a muzzle brake.

Get a suppressor....I'll never hunt without one from here out. Cuts recoil, and saves your hearing.

Suppressors are not legal in Kalifornia, unfortunately. BTW, you can get .30-30 ammo loaded with the Barnes TSX flat point. I hear they work really well. The .30-30 realistically lacks only in sex appeal. I've hunted all over Kalifornia for deer since 1956. And every sub species of deer except the Southern Mule Deer found in San Diego County. I've only killed two past 300 yds. All the rest of them, included the four year olds were killed under 200 yds.
The .223 is legal as well as the .22-250. I know several who use the .223 every year to kill their bucks. I've seen the .220 Swift work on a crease hit at 300 yds. And there is nothing wrong with the .243. I've seen it kill at over 300 yds. E

What's next, how many rounds of ammunition you can have on your person? Or in your vehicle, or house.....sad

I really didn't know suppressors cut recoil, do they have any effect on velocity?

In my experience, velocity gain/loss is minimal. They help with recoil a lot.

The new Omega I just got has made two different rifles shoot tighter groups. It must have something to do with harmonics.

I'm sold on them. It's a shame it's such a hassle to obtain one.

Wrong.

I'd roll a .223 with 50 gr barnes in an AR.

I’d roll with my .257 Roberts with an 80 or 100 gr TTSX if I were in your shoulder situation. Almost no felt recoil in a Ruger 77 with a hard butt pad. I can imagine with a Limbsaver pad that felt recoil would be negligible. Lots of other good options already posted. Happy Trails