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But if Texas favored Trump wouldn't that mean he was executing the will of Texas? Sure, but who says the wall has to be on our side.
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You figure all the eminent domain stuff will be worked out in a week, a year, 10 years, ever?
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Couldn’t say. Things that normally took a full term have happened in 12 months.
If there is a downside to our president fighting for infrastructure on the southern border, I fail to see it.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Eminent domain should be the very last option.
Since NM and CA didn't go red, Trump obviously isn't executing their will, so I'm assuming no wall there?
My guess is if it does go up, it won't last near as long as the one in Berlin.
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California has had two walls for a very long time.
Can’t say if eminent domain was used or not when construction began.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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People are so quick to throw around eminent domain. WTF is wrong with all of you that are happy for the government to take your property/home etc.
I wouldn't be happy if it happened to me. I'm just saying that's reality, and the decisions are never based on the wants/needs/feelings of property owners.
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People are so quick to throw around eminent domain. WTF is wrong with all of you that are happy for the government to take your property/home etc.
I wouldn't be happy if it happened to me. I'm just saying that's reality, and the decisions are never based on the wants/needs/feelings of property owners. And it's a damned shame. I truly can't express how much I detest eminent domain. It would likely be the end of my life.
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Land ownership is a bit of an illusion.
The County decides how much you will pay in annual property tax for the privilege of exclusive use. That's all it is in reality.
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Land ownership is a bit of an illusion.
The County decides how much you will pay in annual property tax for the privilege of exclusive use. That's all it is in reality. I know, property tax IS the tax that should go away, period.
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Yep, but someone has to pay for local schools and law enforcement.
We get stuck with the bill, for all the derelicts having meth babies and needing all the policing and special educating.
What a deal.
I guess if we didn't pay for it, our community and property value would go further down the crapper.
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But the property tax payers are not the only ones who get to vote on school levies and so on. We just get to pick up the tab for the added cost.
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Be kinda like the draft wouldn't it?
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Yep, but someone has to pay for local schools and law enforcement.
We get stuck with the bill, for all the derelicts having meth babies and needing all the policing and special educating.
What a deal.
I guess if we didn't pay for it, our community and property value would go further down the [bleep]. There are other ways, just up or add sales tax. I also think the government should get out of the schools. You have kids, you pay, period. But I guess it's not fair for people with kids to be expected to pay for their kids. All I know is if you had a 30 foot wall along the entire border with Mexico we damn well better get one up for the entire border with Canada. Because BOATLOADS of Mexicans will be going to Canada and coming across that border. Hell, boatloads of whatever will eventually be going to Canada and coming across that border. . You don't think the likes of Soros and his ilk wouldn't load up boats full to take to Canada? You don't think the likes of Trudeua wouldn't assume the missionary position to take them in? Wait for it, it's coming.
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It would be a benefit, but it's a damn shame that people along the border have to give up their land because [bleep] in SAN FRAN, STUPID [bleep] YANKEES IN New York, Minnesota etc want to have sanctuary cities and LOVE illegals. That companies aren't shut down for having illegals.
Is San Antonio in MN or NY? I can't remember. Houston is a bastion of conservatism as well. Obviously it’s folks with democrat senators causing the most problems. Their vote to protect illegals causes everybody problems. Houston is in Harris county which includes all the suburbs surrounding Houston, which is republican. But it want be red much longer if our friends don’t vote out the democrats. Hasbeen
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The OP and others opine that there can be no wall because to erect one would be difficult and require some original thinking. If that had been the American way of problem solving after Pearl Harbor the world would be a different place. Manifest Destiny was a good idea but would probably be too hard for today's naysayers.
Secure borders are an obvious priority for our national security which is the premier obligation of our government. To surmise that a secure border is dependent only on a physical structure [wall] indicates sub-optimal thinking. Doing the difficult, and even the impossible when necessary, is the realm of the Alpha.
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People are so quick to throw around eminent domain. WTF is wrong with all of you that are happy for the government to take your property/home etc.
I wouldn't be happy if it happened to me. I'm just saying that's reality, and the decisions are never based on the wants/needs/feelings of property owners. My family settled here in the no-man's-land of East Texas a couple of hundred years ago. They owned thousands of acres of Angelina/Attoyac River bottom until the 1950's, when it was decided that damning the rivers could produce electricity for everybody. ED took it all. Some of the fought and got nothing. The others sadly accepted the $50 per acre for prime bottom land that the family had farmed/ranched for 150 years. Lake Sam Rayburn hides my heritage and the family is now spread to the winds because of a stupid government idea. Fair price? Screw that. The government shouldn't be able to steal anything from a US citizen. Taxes are bad enough.
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The OP and others opine that there can be no wall because to erect one would be difficult and require some original thinking. If that had been the American way of problem solving after Pearl Harbor the world would be a different place. Manifest Destiny was a good idea but would probably be too hard for today's naysayers.
Secure borders are an obvious priority for our national security which is the premier obligation of our government. To surmise that a secure border is dependent only on a physical structure [wall] indicates sub-optimal thinking. Doing the difficult, and even the impossible when necessary, is the realm of the Alpha.
mike r Hard to disagree with that, but every business east of the Mississippi wasn't begging the Japanese to work on their farm or restaurant.
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The OP and others opine that there can be no wall because to erect one would be difficult and require some original thinking. If that had been the American way of problem solving after Pearl Harbor the world would be a different place. Manifest Destiny was a good idea but would probably be too hard for today's naysayers.
Secure borders are an obvious priority for our national security which is the premier obligation of our government. To surmise that a secure border is dependent only on a physical structure [wall] indicates sub-optimal thinking. Doing the difficult, and even the impossible when necessary, is the realm of the Alpha.
mike r Hard to disagree with that, but every business east of the Mississippi wasn't begging the Japanese to work on their farm or restaurant. LMAO. I’m pretty sure plenty of illegals work right there in sweet ol’ Texas.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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People are so quick to throw around eminent domain. WTF is wrong with all of you that are happy for the government to take your property/home etc.
I wouldn't be happy if it happened to me. I'm just saying that's reality, and the decisions are never based on the wants/needs/feelings of property owners. My family settled here in the no-man's-land of East Texas a couple of hundred years ago. They owned thousands of acres of Angelina/Attoyac River bottom until the 1950's, when it was decided that damning the rivers could produce electricity for everybody. ED took it all. Some of the fought and got nothing. The others sadly accepted the $50 per acre for prime bottom land that the family had farmed/ranched for 150 years. Lake Sam Rayburn hides my heritage and the family is now spread to the winds because of a stupid government idea. Fair price? Screw that. The government shouldn't be able to steal anything from a US citizen. Taxes are bad enough. What happens when a family is paying 3.5% on their mortgage, gets uprooted and the current interest rate on homes is 10%? What happens if they don't qualify for a mortgage? Etc etc. Did I mention how much I hate eminent domain.
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Well if the mantra was "Murder citizens of New York, Minnesota, and California" I'd vote for that guy too.
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