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Here is some limited info on my Swede Fieldcraft. Just starting to develop loads...looks promising so far. Three shot groups at 100 yards.
Group F.P.S. ES SD Powder gr. Bullet Primer Case COAL OGL
0.251 2,984 26 14.4 RL17 45.5 BIB 135 GR CCI 250 LAP 3.100 2.507
0.346 2,925 15 7.7 RL 17 44.5 BIB 135 GR CCI 250 LAP 3.100 2.507
0.354 2,876 52 26.1 RL 26 48.5 BIB 135 GR CCI250 LAP 3.100 2.507
0.483 2,929 19 9.6 RL 26 49.0 BIB 135 GR CCI250 LAP 3.100 2.507
0.605 2,825 27 14.1 RL 26 48.0 BIB 135 GR CCI250 LAP 3.100 2.507
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[quote=drm48]Here is some limited info on my Swede Fieldcraft. Just starting to develop loads...looks promising so far. Three shot groups at 100 yards.
Group F.P.S. ES SD Powder gr. Bullet Primer Case COAL OGL
0.251 2,984 26 14.4 RL17 45.5 BIB 135 GR CCI 250 LAP 3.100 2.507
0.346 2,925 15 7.7 RL 17 44.5 BIB 135 GR CCI 250 LAP 3.100 2.507
0.354 2,876 52 26.1 RL 26 48.5 BIB 135 GR CCI250 LAP 3.100 2.507
0.483 2,929 19 9.6 RL 26 49.0 BIB 135 GR CCI250 LAP 3.100 2.507
0.605 2,825 27 14.1 RL 26 48.0 BIB 135 GR CCI250 LAP 3.100 2.507
Is that a Berger bullet you are loading? I'm loading the 130 Scirocco at a OAL of 3.052 which is 0.050 off the lands. I took four loads to the range yesterday with IMR 4831, IMR 4350, H4831 and RL-19. The best loads were the max listed for H-4831 and IMR-4350. Both were just a hair under 1 MOA. I didn't chrono them, but I will next time. I've tried severa different pwders/primer/seating depth and can't get much better than .75 MOA. I had one group with IMR 4350 that measured .185 when I first got the rifle, but I have not been able to duplicate it so I figure I jerked the trigger just right all three shots.
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The bullets are made by Randy Robinett. His website is bibullets.com
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Looks like you are getting great results DRM 48. I weight sorted some brass and bullets, got a new competition seating die, and loaded up groups with h4831sc (produced the best groups and most consistent spreads last time), and have been keeping the first three right close to .5”. I guess I should call it good and be happy with it.
Thanks for all the advice!
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Shot a couple antelope this week with the gamechangers and the results were nice. Both at 150 and 200 yards they put a small entry hole and a 3/4” exit. Lung shots on both and no more than 50 yards of travel. I’ll keep using them.
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Congratulations Qhorse. Now your Fieldcraft Swede is appropriately broken in.
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I’m starting each round with a clean barrel and waiting 3-5 minutes between shots (barrel is mildly warm). Thanks for any suggestions! Both of the above are bad practices. First round or two goes into the backstop before you begin your groups. If a rifle can't handle a 5 round string without heat issues, it needs to go one of two places. Either to the smith to have the action and bolt face trued along with a new barrel, or down the road. Life and range sessions are too short to wait 5 minutes between shots.
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I don't know the Swede your talking about, but most swedes twists are too fast for better groups with that lite of bullets. I have 2 swedes, 1919 Krag and a 1907 Carl Gustave both shoot 155-160 bullets in one hole! Just my 2 cents worth! Try heavier bullets and stay away from max loads! Why would a fast twist would eliminate better groups with light bullets?
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Took a five pt bull last week with the Swede. 110yards broadside and got complete penetration. Both lungs destroyed and a dead animal within 20’ of the shot. Seems like a good bullet so far.
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I don't know the Swede your talking about, but most swedes twists are too fast for better groups with that lite of bullets. I have 2 swedes, 1919 Krag and a 1907 Carl Gustave both shoot 155-160 bullets in one hole! Just my 2 cents worth! Try heavier bullets and stay away from max loads! I have found the same thing with my Swede.Original barrel cut off and crowned at first step. Glass bedded and Timney trigger. .The bullet I use is the130 gr Nosler AB. It is the longest bullet in that weight class I found and it matches that twist rate using the Greenhill formula which isn't 100%accurate,but darn close. It's the length of the bullet,not the weight. I use H4350 at about 2800 fps and have 1/ 2 minute accuracy .I did have1MOA accuracy with Sierra Game Kings and H4831 , but at about 2650 fps. 130 gr Sierras would not do better than 2". Great antelope load. Have not ever tried it on elk
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FWIW, the Sierra Gamechanger is the only I can’t get to shoot to ~.6” or better with my 6.5 CM. Groups with that bullet are dramatically larger.
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