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I seat the 127 LRX's with a light kiss on my 6.5 CM, sub MOA at 500 yards. They don't always want a jump. Start 'em at a light kiss or a max mag length like any other bullet and work seating depth in from there.
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I am interested in using the 127 LRX in my .260, also. I currently have a load with the 129 Nosler Accubond LR at 2,850 fps that is incredibly accurate in my little Savage Lightweight Hunter.
I was wondering if the 127 LRX will take loads in the same ballpark as the Nosler and result in similar velocities? I read an article by Mule Deer in which he suggested that it did in one 6.5mm rifle that he worked with-- and it makes sense that these bullets would take similar loads.
I know that the only way to answer this for sure is by working up a load, but I'm curious to see if anyone has experiences in this area. It seems to me that these two bullets together would make an excellent combination for the .260, with the softer Accubond LR being reserved for deer and smaller game and the Barnes being used for everything else, and for closer shots.
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I am interested in using the 127 LRX in my .260, also. I currently have a load with the 129 Nosler Accubond LR at 2,850 fps that is incredibly accurate in my little Savage Lightweight Hunter.
I was wondering if the 127 LRX will take loads in the same ballpark as the Nosler and result in similar velocities? I read an article by Mule Deer in which he suggested that it did in one 6.5mm rifle that he worked with-- and it makes sense that these bullets would take similar loads.
I know that the only way to answer this for sure is by working up a load, but I'm curious to see if anyone has experiences in this area. It seems to me that these two bullets together would make an excellent combination for the .260, with the softer Accubond LR being reserved for deer and smaller game and the Barnes being used for everything else, and for closer shots. I'm pushing 127 LRX's to 2950fps w/ 43.8grns RL17 in mt 23" 6.5 Creedmoor (Thanks Derrik)! It shoots to POI as my 123 Scenar and 125 partition load. Never tried 129 LRAB's, but I would think there's a good chance it will be close for you. David
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5 out of 6 rifles seem to like the TTSX's and LRX's seated .040 or deeper my hunting partners and I have yet to get them to shoot when seated closer than .040 and that is with multiple rifles, so I quit wasting my my time and componets in my rifles and aways start deeper, finding a good load is far less frustrating going deeper!
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Three plus years back I spent some time on the phone with Dave Kiff at PTG, designing a new cartridge where I take a Lapua 8x57 case, neck it down to 6.5mm and blow the shoulder out to 30 deg. Dave dubbed it the 6.5x57 BR; saying it had never been done. Necking the 257 Roberts up or 7x57 case down has been done all the time, but not the 8x57 with it's longer body. It took 3 yrs to get the rifle done but that's another story. The rifle was delivered back in August. I started with a simple pressure ladder since load data in non existent. I went through about 1/2 dozen powders before settling on Rel 26. At .030" off the lands (tested 5, 30, 55 and 80 off), I was getting 3100 fps with the 127 LRX. I waited too long and missed getting a Utah general season bull tag so had to settle for a spike tag. My best friend and I had planned on hunting the general season together since he'd had recent knee replacement surgery so we had to hunt the spike season in a totally different area. Their was one hill he said almost always had elk on it at first light with no way to get a close shot right off the bat. They were there to include a spike. Two other hunters happened along as I was setting up, so they got to watch. Ron was on my 15-45x Zeiss spotter while I got set. He called 1-2 mph wind from our 6. The Leica 10x42 HD-B said I needed to dial 15.7 moa for the 12 deg uphill, 810 yd shot. Prone on bipod with a large rear bag, I placed the Velocity 600's main crosshair behind the bulls shoulder and started the 2-stage Huber trigger set to 12 oz, on its way. The shot broke and 1.007 seconds later the bull simply folded up it's rear legs and went straight down. It was quite another sight to see him roll towards us since it was a very steep hill. The 2 witnesses were totally flabbergasted. Now, I'm starting load development for the 142 gr Nosler ABLR.
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GSSP very well done. You must really like esoterica in cartridge development. I am envious but perfectly happy with the 6.5 x 55 that I have. If I go through some late late middle age crisis I might AI it and it would be close to your 6.5-8x57mm improved which is a good place to be. Near 6.5x284 ballistics with slightly maybe very slightly improved barrel life.
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120g. GMX does the job. Head-on shot at Montana Mule Deer. Lodged in his backstrap. Bang-Flop - Deer never took a step.
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120g. GMX does the job. Head-on shot at Montana Mule Deer. Lodged in his backstrap. Bang-Flop - Deer never took a step. Grand looks like some good results....... Are they pretty forgiving in the accuracy department?
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Better accuracy than 127g LRX, nearly same BC and more forgiving in seating depth.
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Better accuracy than 127g LRX, nearly same BC and more forgiving in seating depth. Better accuracy than 127g LRX, nearly same BC and more forgiving in seating depth. I'll have to give them a try...thanks
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I believe accuracy depends on the particular rifle. I shoot the Barnes in my 260Rem , 6.5x06 & 264 mag rifles with out standing accuracy Usually sub 1/2". . Have also shot the Hornady GMX with the same type of accuracy. They are both excellent bullets. Roll the dice. The Barnes does offer the 127gr LRX with a higher BC. If you check the drop tables in the Barnes manual you will find insignificant difference in drop between the any of them. The Barnes 127 LRX does give slightly less wind drift . Also insignificant. Having shot considerable amounts of Barnes & Hornady over the years I see no more copper left than when shooting a C&C bullet. They are all out standing bullets. Barnes does provide a larger selection.The 100gr Barnes TTSX will take the largest deer with ease. The 120 to 127 will do better for extreme range. Again pick which ever one makes you happy. No wrong choice here.
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5 out of 6 rifles seem to like the TTSX's and LRX's seated .040 or deeper my hunting partners and I have yet to get them to shoot when seated closer than .040 and that is with multiple rifles, so I quit wasting my my time and componets in my rifles and aways start deeper, finding a good load is far less frustrating going deeper! Same here. Every Barnes I've loaded has been with front of the first driving band at the case mouth.
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5 out of 6 rifles seem to like the TTSX's and LRX's seated .040 or deeper my hunting partners and I have yet to get them to shoot when seated closer than .040 and that is with multiple rifles, so I quit wasting my my time and componets in my rifles and aways start deeper, finding a good load is far less frustrating going deeper! Same here. Every Barnes I've loaded has been with front of the first driving band at the case mouth. Same here!
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I don't remember if I posted this before. My 6.5mm wildcat rifle got 1" groups at 100 when the 127 LRX was .120" from the lands.
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We killed a Pronghorn buck at 400 yards, a Mule Deer buck at 200yards, and a cow elk at 500 yards with the 127 LRX out of the 20” .260 this year. None of them took a single step after bullet impact, and all bullets exited.
We’ll keep shooting them for sure.
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First load I tried in my Montana 6.5 CM. 127 LRX with 43.5 gr RL16 at 2890. Other loads showed promise but this is the load I’m gonna play with seating depth on.
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Better accuracy than 127g LRX, nearly same BC and more forgiving in seating depth. I'll keep that in mind. I just loaded some Barnes 127 LRX for my 6.5-PRC I might have a chance to shoot it tomorrow (12/19/18) I have a few different powder charges and seating depths to tryout. Powder is RL-26 Time on the trigger will tell.
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AlaskaCub, what make brass and primers are you using? Thanks Tom
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Like most things i get opposite results. I seated my barnes 168 .20 off lands with excellent accuracy. The further i seated them the worst the accuracy.....go figure? I cant wait to push some of those 127 in my m18 mauser!
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AlaskaCub, what make brass and primers are you using? Thanks Tom Hornady and CCI 200’s
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