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Here is truth: Jesus is the Christ, the son of the living God. He that believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life.
Believe what you want, Starman, and mock the word as much as you will. But the truth has been told to you, you would not hear it, and there will be no excuse for your choice on that day when we are all of us called to account. On that day every knee will bow and every tonque will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Even your knee and your tongue. But it will be too late for you. THIS...it’s not really all that complicated. Sadly the cross is a stumbling block for so many.
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... seems like back in the day the thinking was that the dude who had consensual sex with Mary was a Chaldean archer that was assigned
to the roman army . by whatever process, she became pregnant. some suggest his grave marker still exists.
Jews in the day did well for themselves by exploiting opportunity - by doing regular business with occupational force Romans. Many ordinary Jews supplied the Romans who had besieged the trouble making zealots on Masada...at the same time being glad the minority troublesome zealots were being dealt with. Mary could have been like one of many opportunist Jews that followed the Roman columns and encampments around. could have met a Roman warrior with a twinkle in the eye and some empty promises made, and after he got what he wanted he just abandoned her.. but left her with a bun in the oven. But we have zealot christian folks here who prefer an irrational belief in talking snakes, unicorns and children fathered by ghosts.
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... seems like back in the day the thinking was that the dude who had consensual sex with Mary was a Chaldean archer that was assigned to the roman army.
by whatever process, she became pregnant. some suggest his grave marker still exists.
Jews in the day did well for themselves by exploiting opportunity - by doing regular business with occupational force Romans. Many ordinary Jews supplied the Romans who had besieged the trouble making zealots on Masada...at the same time being glad the minority troublesome zealots were being dealt with. Mary could have been like one of many opportunist Jews that followed the Roman columns and encampments around. could have met a Roman warrior with a twinkle in the eye and some empty promises made, and after he got what he wanted he just abandoned her.. but let her with a bun in the oven. Your so knowledgeable. Last time I was as smart as you I was 17 years old! You should write your own book about it all! A billionaire you'll be, I betcha!
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You good folks make it so complicated.
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What original are you referring to?
Well there's more than one eg;, the original first greek version Septuagint, the first complete English Wycliffe. which both retained the original verses from Hebrew and Aramaic. dog4570 and his ilk however prefer a bible that deletes many of the verses God gave. Christian sinners telling God that many words he gave are no longer worth recording in a Bible...go figure. Im hard pressed to believe people who manipulate Bible in such manner are being led by the Holy Spirit... 
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So many words and fights over semantics and virtually none embracing the real message that Christ brought to us. Prior to and since the council of Jerusalem 50 CE , Christians have argued and compromised their beliefs. The Council of Jerusalem demonstrated the willingness of apostolic leaders to make compromises on issues in order to maintain peace and unity in the church. arguments and compromises also preceded and followed each of the seven (7) Ecumenical councils stretching from 325AD - 787AD. essentially Christians have been constantly arguing, disputing and at each others throats... for 2000 yrs. Butthead christians like TF49 and his band of fellow modern day zealots are a little late to the protest party if they are worried about compromises in christian beliefs.
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What original are you referring to?
Well there's more than one eg;, the original first greek version Septuagint, the first complete English Wycliffe. which both retained the original verses from Hebrew and Aramaic. dog4570 and his ilk however prefer a bible that deletes many of the verses God gave. Christian sinners telling God that many words he gave are no longer worth recording in a Bible...go figure. Im hard pressed to believe people who manipulate Bible in such manner are being led by the Holy Spirit... You don't believe what it says anyway, so what difference does it make?
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You don't believe what it says anyway, so what difference does it make?
This thread topic relating to the Talmud is not stopping you or any other christian following their particular choice of belief or disbelief from the Bible - as varied as christian beliefs are....but its seems some are not happy with other peoples freedom to have a rational discussion about the Talmud. basically the CF zealots have tuned in to express their anger at other people not buying their version of adopted beliefs. ...and the same zealots that have no issue with christianity hijacking ancient pre-Jesus pagan festivals and making them christian. Go back in time to 1500s and we had Catholic zealots who said Martin Luther was a 'demon in the appearance of a man'. and that kind of kooky twit mindset still exists right here on the CF in the 21st century.
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".and the same zealots that have no issue with christianity hijacking ancient pre-Jesus pagan festivals and making them christian."
Now that is a good point. Maybe it can be answered??
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Rape by a Roman sounds far more believable than a virgin birth fathered by a ghost.
But of course there're millions of Christians who put their faith in the KJV bible instead
of the Talmud.
Sure. But do you believe it's true? So, SM, are you going to answer his question? It is a simple question. You posted it and you were asked a simple direct question. Don’t tell us you already answered. You did not, you just responded with “weasel words.” Will you answer? Or.... will you ignore it because.......?
The tax collector said: “Lord Jesus, have mercy on me, a sinner.” Jesus said he went home “justified.”
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I did answer xxxClaro , but its not the answer zealots like you will ever be happy with.
btw; have you dressed your pagan symbol Christmas tree yet..?
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Rob Jordan, you are one more phony son of a bitch. You wagered your presence on this forum and lost the bet. Now you are welching on that bet every time you post.
You do not belong in the company of men.
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I aint the 'RJ" you talk of , but I cant stop what wild fantasy a fool chooses to believe .....by all means carry on the way you are...
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I did answer xxxClaro , but its not the answer zealots like you will ever be happy with.
btw; have you dressed your pagan symbol Christmas tree yet..? Nah, you didn’t answer it and you know it. I’m just trying to have a rational discussion with you about what you posted about this Ben panthers story. Seems you don’t want to have a rational discussion. Now, I realize you are trying to play switch with your question about the Christmas tree. The answer is that I have not had a Christmas up in probably ten years, but if someone wants to do that, I’m ok with their choice. Now, will you answer the question?
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My answer to xxClaro is still on record on the forum, best you go check...
but like I said, zealots like you will never be happy unless its the answer you want to see.
your fantasies rest with the Bible not me.
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My answer to xxClaro is still on record on the forum, best you go check...
but like I said, zealots like you will never be happy unless its the answer you want to see.
your fantasies rest with the Bible not me. I did check it and you most certainly did not. Simple question, but you cannot bear to answer it. You posted the reference to the Ben panthers story but will not tell us if you believe or not. Whether I am zealot or not has no bearing on your failure to step up to the plate and face the pitch. Do you believe the Ben panthers story or not. Yes or no?
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I did check it and you most certainly did not.
LOL ...my answer to xxClaro is still there you FOOL....your problem is that you DONT like it.
You show up and post provocative subject matter....
Not everybody seems provoked and rattled like you seem....which tells me your problem largely rests within you. ....When I was in business, those type of words were called weasel words Lots of bobbing and weaving, obfuscation abounding.
Jesus often didn't speak his message clear and directly , but rather he concealed or obsfucated the truth in parables. Jesus effectively used what you call the 'weasel words' approach.
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I did check it and you most certainly did not.
LOL ...my answer to xxClaro is still there you FOOL....your problem is that you DONT like it.
You show up and post provocative subject matter....
Not everybody seems provoked and rattled like you seem....which tells me your problem largely rests within you. .... Lots of bobbing and weaving, obfuscation abounding.
Jesus often didn't speak his message clear and directly , but rather he concealed or obsfucated the truth in parables. Oh boy.... bobbing and weaving.....weasel words... obfuscation.... equivocation ..... in spades. Classic SM. You can’t do it. Cannot answer. You need to use your internet search skills and see what equivocation and prevarication mean. These are all chacteristics of a troll. Meh.....
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My answer to xxClaro is on PAGE 1, If you can't find it or understand it , you are far far dumber than you already appear.
I don't have anymore time for your level of STUPID....maybe your favorite priest or pastor can sooth your hurt snowflake feelings.
or just get your wife to read you a bedtime bible story....can I suggest Balaams talking donkey.
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My answer to xxClaro is on PAGE 1, If you can't find it or understand it , you are far far dumber than you already appear.
I don't have anymore time for your level of STUPID....maybe your favorite priest or pastor can sooth your hurt snowflake feelings.
or just get your wife to read you a bedtime bible story....can I suggest Balaams talking donkey.
Getting testy? Like I said, troll. Meh....
The tax collector said: “Lord Jesus, have mercy on me, a sinner.” Jesus said he went home “justified.”
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