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I'm curious how the state police knew the buck was shot with a rifle instead of bow. Forensics on the carcass or blabbermouth on social media?
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He said something to somebody somewhere
That type cant help but brag about what they did.
Eventually a set of ears heard and didnt like it.
Dudes got busted at Ft Campbell about 8 yrs ago basically the same way......
Or dumbass posted stuff on the web and the same type of thing happened.
Some dude was here awhile ago that was along the same line.
Getting hammered by a bunch of guys about fugged up chyt he did.
Cant remember his username, but I'm sure others know the poster.
Another dude ass shot a bear posted about it on here. He was a royal douche bag for sure.
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Were I to azz shoot a bear I wouldn't post it on here, no matter how proud of my winch I may be.
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Excellent! Great to see poachers go down.
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This part of the article doesn't make sense to me . . .
"The hunter had claimed to have taken the deer during archery season, with a valid archery tag.
"And that is against the law in Oregon."
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Yes, it's against the law if one uses his rifle to bag the animal during archery season.
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I'm curious how the state police knew the buck was shot with a rifle instead of bow. Forensics on the carcass or blabbermouth on social media?
My guess would be no razor cuts to the hide.
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Taxidermist get busted too?
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Taxidermist get busted too? If it is a trophy class animal, it will have to be examined and measured, green and dry. I don't know all the rules, myself. Never bothered with a mount, by my friends have. Most likely to be a full Cape, and bullet wounds do not look like arrow wounds.
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Loose lips sink ships. Dumass posted pictures of a very large timber rattler he shot. They are protected here. They fined his ass.
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What pisses me off the most, is the penalties the Judge gave him...
3 years no hunting license... $6250 fine, same as they can give you for littering.... and so on..
This guy should never be allowed to have a hunting license or a firearm.. along with 5 to 10 years behind bars.. seizure of about $50k of his possessions....
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A few years ago some guys from FT Hood TX shot a large alligator illegally and posted pictures on facebook. They were arrested the next day.
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The poacher is from Eugene. Does anything good ever come out of that town?
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Lennie: Thanks for sharing this - I had not heard about it.
I am glad the authorities caught this criminal (however they found out about it?) and that he has been punished.
One worrisome aspect of this (and similar incidents) situation is how it brings to mind the trend of more and more of this type of "ego satisfaction" conduct on the part of more and more hunters of recent.
In other words I am sad to see the direction that Hunting is going in for more and more people.
Shame that trophy animal was desecrated by that egotistical morons actions!
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It was a poorly written article. I'd like to know how the authorities determined the deer was shot with a rifle after it was caped out and mounted.
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Fing cheating slimeball who poached a deer should lose everything including his house....
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Were I to azz shoot a bear I wouldn't post it on here, no matter how proud of my winch I may be.
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from the article: But as Oregon State Police investigated the hunter in May 2018 in connection to other crimes, they learned the record-setting deer had been shot with a rifle. Seems that the gentleman isn't an upstanding citizen. The police apparently had cause to look further.
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What pisses me off the most, is the penalties the Judge gave him...
3 years no hunting license... $6250 fine, same as they can give you for littering.... and so on..
This guy should never be allowed to have a hunting license or a firearm.. along with 5 to 10 years behind bars.. seizure of about $50k of his possessions.... Why? It’s a [bleep] deer. Are you PETA or something? It probably would have been hit by a truck or died of old age in a year or two. I understand the need for seasons and all that, but I’ll never understand those who would basically wish for someone’s life to be ended because he killed an animal in a illegal manner, particularly when had he waited a few weeks and killed it in the exact same manner, it would have been completely legal.
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Since it is only illegal if you get caught I guess he got caught.
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What pisses me off the most, is the penalties the Judge gave him...
3 years no hunting license... $6250 fine, same as they can give you for littering.... and so on..
This guy should never be allowed to have a hunting license or a firearm.. along with 5 to 10 years behind bars.. seizure of about $50k of his possessions.... Why? It’s a [bleep] deer. Are you PETA or something? It probably would have been hit by a truck or died of old age in a year or two. I understand the need for seasons and all that, but I’ll never understand those who would basically wish for someone’s life to be ended because he killed an animal in a illegal manner, particularly when had he waited a few weeks and killed it in the exact same manner, it would have been completely legal. Because he stole it from a legal hunter. I hate thieves. "It probably would have been hit by a truck or died of old age in a year or two." No way to know this or assume it probable. I legal hunter could have killed it and this scum took away that chance.
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What pisses me off the most, is the penalties the Judge gave him...
3 years no hunting license... $6250 fine, same as they can give you for littering.... and so on..
This guy should never be allowed to have a hunting license or a firearm.. along with 5 to 10 years behind bars.. seizure of about $50k of his possessions.... Why? It’s a [bleep] deer. Are you PETA or something? It probably would have been hit by a truck or died of old age in a year or two. I understand the need for seasons and all that, but I’ll never understand those who would basically wish for someone’s life to be ended because he killed an animal in a illegal manner, particularly when had he waited a few weeks and killed it in the exact same manner, it would have been completely legal. Because he stole it from a legal hunter. I hate thieves. "It probably would have been hit by a truck or died of old age in a year or two." No way to know this or assume it probable. I legal hunter could have killed it and this scum took away that chance. That sort of twisted logic could be applied to about anything.
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Since it is only illegal if you get caught I guess he got caught.
No sir, and a common fault in young people these days. It's illegal, weither or not you get caught. It's the difference between right and wrong, and when you say "it's only wrong if you get caught" you get warped values. That phrase (and justification for wrong behavior) needs to be stomped out without mercy.
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Because he stole it from a legal hunter. I hate thieves.
"It probably would have been hit by a truck or died of old age in a year or two."
No way to know this or assume it probable. I legal hunter could have killed it and this scum took away that chance.
You and I differ in that I couldn't give a flying toss what other fellows hunt...or where. And if you have never had occasion to hunt somewhere you shouldn't for something you shouldn't then you have led a more sheltered orderly life than I.
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What pisses me off the most, is the penalties the Judge gave him...
3 years no hunting license... $6250 fine, same as they can give you for littering.... and so on..
This guy should never be allowed to have a hunting license or a firearm.. along with 5 to 10 years behind bars.. seizure of about $50k of his possessions.... Why? It’s a [bleep] deer. Are you PETA or something? It probably would have been hit by a truck or died of old age in a year or two. I understand the need for seasons and all that, but I’ll never understand those who would basically wish for someone’s life to be ended because he killed an animal in a illegal manner, particularly when had he waited a few weeks and killed it in the exact same manner, it would have been completely legal. Because he stole it from a legal hunter. I hate thieves. "It probably would have been hit by a truck or died of old age in a year or two." No way to know this or assume it probable. I legal hunter could have killed it and this scum took away that chance. That sort of twisted logic could be applied to about anything. Only thing twisted is your sympathy for poachers, which leads to a question of why are you sympathetic to poachers?
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Since it is only illegal if you get caught I guess he got caught.
No sir, and a common fault in young people these days. It's illegal, weither or not you get caught. It's the difference between right and wrong, and when you say "it's only wrong if you get caught" you get warped values. That phrase (and justification for wrong behavior) needs to be stomped out without mercy. Bullsh_t.
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Because he stole it from a legal hunter. I hate thieves.
"It probably would have been hit by a truck or died of old age in a year or two."
No way to know this or assume it probable. I legal hunter could have killed it and this scum took away that chance.
You and I differ in that I couldn't give a flying toss what other fellows hunt...or where. And if you have never had occasion to hunt somewhere you shouldn't for something you shouldn't then you have led a more honest life than I. Fixed it for you.
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Since it is only illegal if you get caught I guess he got caught.
No sir, and a common fault in young people these days. It's illegal, weither or not you get caught. It's the difference between right and wrong, and when you say "it's only wrong if you get caught" you get warped values. That phrase (and justification for wrong behavior) needs to be stomped out without mercy. Bullsh_t. Not bull. You only see punishment if you get caught, but the action is still illegal, the law has been violated. You have done wrong. That doesn't change just because no one was looking at the time.
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Because he stole it from a legal hunter. I hate thieves.
"It probably would have been hit by a truck or died of old age in a year or two."
No way to know this or assume it probable. I legal hunter could have killed it and this scum took away that chance.
You and I differ in that I couldn't give a flying toss what other fellows hunt...or where. And if you have never had occasion to hunt somewhere you shouldn't for something you shouldn't then you have led a more lawful life than I. [b][/b][i][/i] Really, you think the half-arsed greenie stuffed up laws should all be dutifully obeyed at all costs...I don't. And I don't give a flying f_ck as to your opinion on the matter.
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Because he stole it from a legal hunter. I hate thieves.
"It probably would have been hit by a truck or died of old age in a year or two."
No way to know this or assume it probable. I legal hunter could have killed it and this scum took away that chance.
You and I differ in that I couldn't give a flying toss what other fellows hunt...or where. And if you have never had occasion to hunt somewhere you shouldn't for something you shouldn't then you have led a more lawful life than I. [b][/b][i][/i] Really, you think the half-arsed greenie stuffed up laws should all be dutifully obeyed at all costs...I don't. And I don't give a flying f_ck as to your opinion on the matter. Then why the f_ck are you on a forum? That would be counter productive.
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What pisses me off the most, is the penalties the Judge gave him...
3 years no hunting license... $6250 fine, same as they can give you for littering.... and so on..
This guy should never be allowed to have a hunting license or a firearm.. along with 5 to 10 years behind bars.. seizure of about $50k of his possessions.... Why? It’s a [bleep] deer. Are you PETA or something? It probably would have been hit by a truck or died of old age in a year or two. I understand the need for seasons and all that, but I’ll never understand those who would basically wish for someone’s life to be ended because he killed an animal in a illegal manner, particularly when had he waited a few weeks and killed it in the exact same manner, it would have been completely legal. Because he stole it from a legal hunter. I hate thieves. "It probably would have been hit by a truck or died of old age in a year or two." No way to know this or assume it probable. I legal hunter could have killed it and this scum took away that chance. That sort of twisted logic could be applied to about anything. Only thing twisted is your sympathy for poachers, which leads to a question of why are you sympathetic to poachers? Because I’m smart enough to realize that wanting to send someone to jail for years, fine them tens of thousands of dollars, and otherwise ruin their lives for shooting a deer is ridiculous and stupid?
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A few years ago some guys from FT Hood TX shot a large alligator illegally and posted pictures on facebook. They were arrested the next day. Dunno about that but this one was busted because of a facebook post. Kilt on neighbors place about 1/2 mile from my house back in 2011 https://www.elgincourier.com/news/article_a073f356-48d6-11e0-88e4-001cc4c002e0.html?mode=jqm
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Since it is only illegal if you get caught I guess he got caught.
No sir, and a common fault in young people these days. It's illegal, weither or not you get caught. It's the difference between right and wrong, and when you say "it's only wrong if you get caught" you get warped values. That phrase (and justification for wrong behavior) needs to be stomped out without mercy. Bullsh_t. Not bull. You only see punishment if you get caught, but the action is still illegal, the law has been violated. You have done wrong. That doesn't change just because no one was looking at the time. I obey that which I deem to be in my interest...that which I consider absurd, stupid, childish, or aimed at some one else, I simply ignore. For instance, it is illegal to dispatch native fauna without a relevant licence from National Sparks and Wildfires...but I refuse to allow vehicle struck 'roos to die a miserable death so kill them as I will to alleviate suffering...and f_ck the law and your opinion.
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Because he stole it from a legal hunter. I hate thieves.
"It probably would have been hit by a truck or died of old age in a year or two."
No way to know this or assume it probable. I legal hunter could have killed it and this scum took away that chance.
You and I differ in that I couldn't give a flying toss what other fellows hunt...or where. And if you have never had occasion to hunt somewhere you shouldn't for something you shouldn't then you have led a more lawful life than I. [b][/b][i][/i] Really, you think the half-arsed greenie stuffed up laws should all be dutifully obeyed at all costs...I don't. And I don't give a flying f_ck as to your opinion on the matter. Then why the f_ck are you on a forum? That would be counter productive. Because I damn well wish to be, and I do not need your permission so be so good as to go f_ck yourself...or not.
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Your laws and your issues. But by that logic, I chose to ignore all laws. No problem....right?
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Touchy, touchy....sounds like a guilty conscience, or an untenable position.
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Because he stole it from a legal hunter. I hate thieves.
"It probably would have been hit by a truck or died of old age in a year or two."
No way to know this or assume it probable. I legal hunter could have killed it and this scum took away that chance.
You and I differ in that I couldn't give a flying toss what other fellows hunt...or where. And if you have never had occasion to hunt somewhere you shouldn't for something you shouldn't then you have led a more honest life than I. Fixed it for you. Judgey sort of a c_nt aren't you.
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Because he stole it from a legal hunter. I hate thieves.
"It probably would have been hit by a truck or died of old age in a year or two."
No way to know this or assume it probable. I legal hunter could have killed it and this scum took away that chance.
You and I differ in that I couldn't give a flying toss what other fellows hunt...or where. And if you have never had occasion to hunt somewhere you shouldn't for something you shouldn't then you have led a more honest life than I. Fixed it for you. Judgey sort of a c_nt aren't you. To an admitted poacher like you, ya I guess.
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Your laws and your issues. But by that logic, I chose to ignore all laws. No problem....right? Do whatever you wish, either way it is of no import to me.
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Threads like this show us who will only be too eager to turn in other gun owners when the time comes.
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Because he stole it from a legal hunter. I hate thieves.
"It probably would have been hit by a truck or died of old age in a year or two."
No way to know this or assume it probable. I legal hunter could have killed it and this scum took away that chance.
You and I differ in that I couldn't give a flying toss what other fellows hunt...or where. And if you have never had occasion to hunt somewhere you shouldn't for something you shouldn't then you have led a more honest life than I. Fixed it for you. Judgey sort of a c_nt aren't you. To an admitted poacher like you, ya I guess. So...do you think you are hurting my feelings, may as well shove in a line about me shooting under a spotlight as well. Been known to be colourful with tax as well. So f_cking what.
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Your laws and your issues. But by that logic, I chose to ignore all laws. No problem....right? Do whatever you wish, either way it is of no import to me. Right , Because you're in a completely different country and we are a nation of laws.
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Threads like this show us who will only be too eager to turn in other gun owners when the time comes. Shows those that cannot think for themselves.
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Your laws and your issues. But by that logic, I chose to ignore all laws. No problem....right? Do whatever you wish, either way it is of no import to me. Right , Because you're in a completely different country and we are a nation of laws. Really...Hillary. Just for a start.
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Your laws and your issues. But by that logic, I chose to ignore all laws. No problem....right? Do whatever you wish, either way it is of no import to me. Right , Because you're in a completely different country and we are a nation of laws. Really...Hillary. Just for a start. You want her? She's all yours..
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Touchy, touchy....sounds like a guilty conscience, or an untenable position. And you lot sound like the bleeting of sheep.
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Touchy, touchy....sounds like a guilty conscience, or an untenable position. And you lot sound like the bleeting of sheep. Best way to find the Wolf.
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Your laws and your issues. But by that logic, I chose to ignore all laws. No problem....right? Do whatever you wish, either way it is of no import to me. Right , Because you're in a completely different country and we are a nation of laws. Really...Hillary. Just for a start. You want her? She's all yours.. Oh, no mention of the laws she has supposedly broken. You seem to live in glass castles.
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So...do you think you are hurting my feelings, may as well shove in a line about me shooting under a spotlight as well.
Been known to be colourful with tax as well.
So f_cking what.
I could care less about your feelings, but you are less then honest.
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So...do you think you are hurting my feelings, may as well shove in a line about me shooting under a spotlight as well.
Been known to be colourful with tax as well.
So f_cking what.
I could care less about your feelings, but you are less then honest. So. I have led an interesting life outside the slaughter pens, I fully intend to continue. And if you intend to sit there and tell all and sundry you have never in your life broken or bent a single solitary law than you are a lying sob.
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No, those who live in glass houses, shouldn't stow thrones.;) just being honest. To hold someone else to a lawful standard while breaking the law yourself is hypocritical.
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So...do you think you are hurting my feelings, may as well shove in a line about me shooting under a spotlight as well.
Been known to be colourful with tax as well.
So f_cking what.
I could care less about your feelings, but you are less then honest. So. I have led an interesting life outside the slaughter pens, I fully intend to continue. And if you intend to sit there and tell all and sundry you have never in your life broken or bent a single solitary law than you are a lying sob. Hopefully you get to spend some time in lockup soon. Sounds like you deserve it.
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No, those who live in glass houses, shouldn't stow the ones.;) just being honest. To hold someone else to a lawful standard while breaking the law yourself is hypocritical. To get upset about some dill breaking some silly law is hypocritical when you have yourself broken laws...or are you too going to pretend you have never done so.
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So...do you think you are hurting my feelings, may as well shove in a line about me shooting under a spotlight as well.
Been known to be colourful with tax as well.
So f_cking what.
I could care less about your feelings, but you are less then honest. So. I have led an interesting life outside the slaughter pens, I fully intend to continue. And if you intend to sit there and tell all and sundry you have never in your life broken or bent a single solitary law than you are a lying sob. Hopefully you get to spend some time in lockup soon. Sounds like you deserve it. You don't know a damn thing about me fellow, but I do know you are a hypocrite.
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No, those who live in glass houses, shouldn't stow the ones.;) just being honest. To hold someone else to a lawful standard while breaking the law yourself is hypocritical. You may wish to read what you have written, as you need it more than I.
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No, those who live in glass houses, shouldn't stow the ones.;) just being honest. To hold someone else to a lawful standard while breaking the law yourself is hypocritical. To get upset about some dill breaking some silly law is hypocritical when you have yourself broken laws...or are you too going to pretend you have never done so. Nope, And I was waiting for the question. As a child I tried shoplifting, And got caught. I knew it was wrong didn't matter if I needed it or not, It was still wrong. I paid the price for it, But the worst part was letting my father down. So yes, I am Hypocritical to hate a thief. But it doesn't mean I'd let it slide.
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No, those who live in glass houses, shouldn't stow the ones.;) just being honest. To hold someone else to a lawful standard while breaking the law yourself is hypocritical. To get upset about some dill breaking some silly law is hypocritical when you have yourself broken laws...or are you too going to pretend you have never done so. Nope, And I was waiting for the question. As a child I tried shoplifting, And got caught. I knew it was wrong didn't matter if I needed it or not, It was still wrong. I paid the price for it, But the worst part was letting my father down. So yes, I am Hypocritical to hate a thief. But it doesn't mean I'd let it slide. Really, as a child. Never broken or bent a single law in all this time since...really? Bullsh_t.
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No, those who live in glass houses, shouldn't stow the ones.;) just being honest. To hold someone else to a lawful standard while breaking the law yourself is hypocritical. To get upset about some dill breaking some silly law is hypocritical when you have yourself broken laws...or are you too going to pretend you have never done so. Nope, And I was waiting for the question. As a child I tried shoplifting, And got caught. I knew it was wrong didn't matter if I needed it or not, It was still wrong. I paid the price for it, But the worst part was letting my father down. So yes, I am Hypocritical to hate a thief. But it doesn't mean I'd let it slide. Really, as a child. Never broken or bent a single law in all this time since...really? Bullsh_t. Traffic violations, yeah a few. But I try to lead an honest and truthful life.
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No, those who live in glass houses, shouldn't stow the ones.;) just being honest. To hold someone else to a lawful standard while breaking the law yourself is hypocritical. To get upset about some dill breaking some silly law is hypocritical when you have yourself broken laws...or are you too going to pretend you have never done so. Nope, And I was waiting for the question. As a child I tried shoplifting, And got caught. I knew it was wrong didn't matter if I needed it or not, It was still wrong. I paid the price for it, But the worst part was letting my father down. So yes, I am Hypocritical to hate a thief. But it doesn't mean I'd let it slide. Really, as a child. Never broken or bent a single law in all this time since...really? Bullsh_t. Traffic violations, yeah a few. But I try to lead an honest and truthful life. Go ahead and cast the first stone...oh wait!
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Jesus says to the crowd " let them without sin cast the first stone. " one rock comes sailing out of the crowd and strike the whore, and jesus says "MOTHER!!!!!!" 
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One thing I did find odd in the op is the hunting season thing you lot have there, we don't really have those tie-ups.
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One thing I did find odd in the op is the hunting season thing you lot have there, we don't really have those tie-ups.
It's no different than hunting an animal at night or with an illegal weapon, its poaching. Americans have never been known for going small or being timid. We hunted a lot of a game near to extinction. That's why market hunting is illegal, And why we have Hunting seasons and bag limits. This is to maintain herd sizes so that there will be hunting down the road.
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One thing I did find odd in the op is the hunting season thing you lot have there, we don't really have those tie-ups.
It's no different than hunting an animal at night or with an illegal weapon, its poaching. Americans have never been known for going small or being timid. We hunted a lot of a game near to extinction. That's why market hunting is illegal, And why we have Hunting seasons and bag limits. This is to maintain herd sizes so that there will be hunting down the road. Doesn't apply here. Poaching here is either hunting on Government land or private without permission...or in the case of one property I shot where I had the owner's blessing but did not have the relevant Government tags, but three feet over the fence on the eastern and southern side I did. And there is not a roo shooter in existence that hasn't shot a roo on the side of the road on the way home.
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Rough crowd today - eh, JStuart?
Seems like the poacher got the lawful penalty, but some aren't satisfied with that and want his hide. I gotta say, that's pretty damn fascist of 'em.
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Rough crowd today - eh, JStuart?
Seems like the poacher got the lawful penalty, but some aren't satisfied with that and want his hide. I gotta say, that's pretty damn fascist of 'em. For some reason that eludes me there seems to be those that want to do the left's job for them.
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Rough crowd today - eh, JStuart?
Seems like the poacher got the lawful penalty, but some aren't satisfied with that and want his hide. I gotta say, that's pretty damn fascist of 'em. Ya its just crazy wanting to protect a publicly owned natural resource.
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Rough crowd today - eh, JStuart?
Seems like the poacher got the lawful penalty, but some aren't satisfied with that and want his hide. I gotta say, that's pretty damn fascist of 'em. Ya its just crazy wanting to protect a publicly owned natural resource. What hair up your ass causes you to argue like a pubescent girl? No one here has said we shouldn't have game laws and enforce them. It's the call for life-ruining excessive punishment (in other words - more than the law imposes) that I'm referring to. Imprisonment for minor game violations is as stupid as the same for minor tax violations. That some of you think the state should have such absolute control over your pet issues just because it's "publicly owned resource" speaks volumes about your personal acceptance of the fascist mindset. The personal attack mode you and others have launched in this thread is exactly the kind of [bleep] that the fascist left thrives on.
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Rough crowd today - eh, JStuart?
Seems like the poacher got the lawful penalty, but some aren't satisfied with that and want his hide. I gotta say, that's pretty damn fascist of 'em. Ya its just crazy wanting to protect a publicly owned natural resource. What hair up your ass causes you to argue like a pubescent girl? No one here has said we shouldn't have game laws and enforce them. It's the call for life-ruining excessive punishment (in other words - more than the law imposes) that I'm referring to. Imprisonment for minor game violations is as stupid as the same for minor tax violations. That some of you think the state should have such absolute control over your pet issues just because it's "publicly owned resource" speaks volumes about your personal acceptance of the fascist mindset. The personal attack mode you and others have launched in this thread is exactly the kind of [bleep] that the fascist left thrives on. Speaking of "pubescent girl" seems you and a couple others sink right to name calling. Poaching is stealing and I hate thieves.
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I think its a pretty despicable crime that western states game agencies essentially feed tens of thousands of deer and thousands of elk to lions and wolves every year.
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Rough crowd today - eh, JStuart?
Seems like the poacher got the lawful penalty, but some aren't satisfied with that and want his hide. I gotta say, that's pretty damn fascist of 'em. Ya its just crazy wanting to protect a publicly owned natural resource. What hair up your ass causes you to argue like a pubescent girl? No one here has said we shouldn't have game laws and enforce them. It's the call for life-ruining excessive punishment (in other words - more than the law imposes) that I'm referring to. Imprisonment for minor game violations is as stupid as the same for minor tax violations. That some of you think the state should have such absolute control over your pet issues just because it's "publicly owned resource" speaks volumes about your personal acceptance of the fascist mindset. The personal attack mode you and others have launched in this thread is exactly the kind of [bleep] that the fascist left thrives on. Speaking of "pubescent girl" seems you and a couple others sink right to name calling. Poaching is stealing and I hate thieves. You just can't stop, can you? I never called you a name, and your accusation of such is BS. I described your style of argument as that of a pubescent girl, and you turn it around and call it "name-calling" - which is just another example of the same argument style. Nice work. Poaching is poaching. Calling it just what it is doesn't make it any less of an offense. If we want to lump every such activity into "stealing", we can include cheating on taxes (which includes more things than most bother to check), keeping things found on the ground that don't belong to you, and stiffing the waitress. How do you fare?
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Rough crowd today - eh, JStuart?
Seems like the poacher got the lawful penalty, but some aren't satisfied with that and want his hide. I gotta say, that's pretty damn fascist of 'em. Ya its just crazy wanting to protect a publicly owned natural resource. What hair up your ass causes you to argue like a pubescent girl? No one here has said we shouldn't have game laws and enforce them. It's the call for life-ruining excessive punishment (in other words - more than the law imposes) that I'm referring to. Imprisonment for minor game violations is as stupid as the same for minor tax violations. That some of you think the state should have such absolute control over your pet issues just because it's "publicly owned resource" speaks volumes about your personal acceptance of the fascist mindset. The personal attack mode you and others have launched in this thread is exactly the kind of [bleep] that the fascist left thrives on. Speaking of "pubescent girl" seems you and a couple others sink right to name calling. Poaching is stealing and I hate thieves. You just can't stop, can you? I never called you a name, and your accusation of such is BS. I described your style of argument as that of a pubescent girl, and you turn it around and call it "came-calling" - which is just another example of the same argument style. Nice work. Poaching is poaching. Calling it just what it is doesn't make it any less of an offense. If we want to lump every such activity into "stealing", we can include cheating on taxes (which includes more things than most bother to check), keeping things found on the ground that don't belong to you, and stiffing the waitress. How do you fare? I fare just fine since I don't do any of the above, you must though. Going from poaching to stiffing a waitress is a stretch even for the Fire. If you don't or can't understand how poaching is stealing, I really can't help.
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I want to save our national forests and the animals therin by preventing illegal alien caravans from entering into our country and by kicking out illegals here. They exact a heavy toll o our natural resources and contribute to the pollution of our air with the hoopies they drive.
They also rape or kill hundreds upon hundreds of our fellow citizens each year and extract a financial toll of about $70,000 per alien dimocrap.
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And the white trash roars.
This site has successfully collected the biggest pile of low lifes I've ever seen in one spot.
It's been like a gill-net for white scum for the last ten years.
If you're not boasting about thieving from the self check out at Walmart you're whining about a fellow dirt bag getting busted by F&G when someone feels the penalties are too light.
A lot of good people have moved away from this site due to you loud mouthed fks.
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I fare just fine since I don't do any of the above, you must though. Going from poaching to stiffing a waitress is a stretch even for the Fire. If you don't or can't understand how poaching is stealing, I really can't help.
No help needed. I am perfectly fine with letting things be what they are, instead of lumping them all together and demanding the same punishment for all. That's fine and dandy for The Lord - but not for earthly governments. How about we just pull your driver's license and impound your car for going over the speed limit? For some, poaching is eating. For some others, poaching is a careless mistake. Still others choose a lessor of two evils (and if you can't imagine how that happens, you haven't hunted much). Go ahead and incarcerate 'em for that. I'm not making excuses for poaching. Just pointing out that some of you take it far too personally and slide into the fascist mode.
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And the white trash roars.
This site has successfully collected the biggest pile of low lifes I've ever seen in one spot.
It's been like a gill-net for white scum for the last ten years.
If you're not boasting about thieving from the self check out at Walmart you're whining about a fellow dirt bag getting busted by F&G when someone feels the penalties are too light.
A lot of good people have moved away from this site due to you loud mouthed fks.
Who's whining? You are. And tossing in the ad hominem to boot.
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People get less that some of you would like for manslaughter, drugs leading to death, etc etc. Im all for hammering poachers, but you escalate the penalty for killing an animal over a human, youre a PETA loving kcunt.
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Not hard to imagine a lot of you in another life shrugging your shoulders and saying, “Ja, Befehl ist Befehl.”
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And the white trash roars.
This site has successfully collected the biggest pile of low lifes I've ever seen in one spot.
It's been like a gill-net for white scum for the last ten years.
If you're not boasting about thieving from the self check out at Walmart you're whining about a fellow dirt bag getting busted by F&G when someone feels the penalties are too light.
A lot of good people have moved away from this site due to you loud mouthed fks.
You should too.
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Not hard to imagine a lot of you in another life shrugging your shoulders and saying, “Ja, Befehl ist Befehl.” Idunno. I think ol' callnum is just pissed 'cause he never bagged a trophy buck, and thinks it's the fault of some poacher, and therefore they should all rot. His idea of the value of a person is pretty warped though. Going from poaching to stiffing a waitress is a stretch even for the Fire. Personally, for the record, I'd poach a deer before I'd stiff the waitress. As for akasparky - it's pretty rich how some guys who've contributed little to this forum like to spout accusations and personal insults and then whine about people being "driven off". Way I see it, Sparky - you have three choices. Keep whining and making an ass of yourself; find yourself a forum safe space; or try and have an adult conversation.
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You gots to be careful with Callnum. He is the aboriginal.
That's to say he is a bit fragile.
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Jesus says to the crowd " let them without sin cast the first stone. " one rock comes sailing out of the crowd and strike the whore, and jesus says "MOTHER!!!!!!" Jesus Mary and Joseph that was funny!
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Since it is only illegal if you get caught I guess he got caught.
No sir, and a common fault in young people these days. It's illegal, weither or not you get caught. It's the difference between right and wrong, and when you say "it's only wrong if you get caught" you get warped values. That phrase (and justification for wrong behavior) needs to be stomped out without mercy. You do know that "illegal" and "wrong" aren't synonymous, right?
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Since it is only illegal if you get caught I guess he got caught.
No sir, and a common fault in young people these days. It's illegal, weither or not you get caught. It's the difference between right and wrong, and when you say "it's only wrong if you get caught" you get warped values. That phrase (and justification for wrong behavior) needs to be stomped out without mercy. You do know that "illegal" and "wrong" aren't synonymous, right? Correct, in most instances. Perhaps integrity would fit the usage better. It's doing the right thing even though no one is watching.
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the only real difference between a good tracker and a bad tracker, is observation. all the same data is present for both. The rest, is understanding what you're seeing.
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Since it is only illegal if you get caught I guess he got caught.
No sir, and a common fault in young people these days. It's illegal, weither or not you get caught. It's the difference between right and wrong, and when you say "it's only wrong if you get caught" you get warped values. That phrase (and justification for wrong behavior) needs to be stomped out without mercy. You do know that "illegal" and "wrong" aren't synonymous, right? Correct, in most instances. Perhaps integrity would fit the usage better. It's doing the right thing even though no one is watching. You are still mixing up "right" and "legal".
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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Since it is only illegal if you get caught I guess he got caught.
No sir, and a common fault in young people these days. It's illegal, weither or not you get caught. It's the difference between right and wrong, and when you say "it's only wrong if you get caught" you get warped values. That phrase (and justification for wrong behavior) needs to be stomped out without mercy. You do know that "illegal" and "wrong" aren't synonymous, right? Correct, in most instances. Perhaps integrity would fit the usage better. It's doing the right thing even though no one is watching. You are still mixing up "right" and "legal". No. In most cases, right IS legal, and legal IS right. When it is not, it is time for legally changing the law.
An unemployed Jester, is nobody's Fool.
the only real difference between a good tracker and a bad tracker, is observation. all the same data is present for both. The rest, is understanding what you're seeing.
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You are still mixing up "right" and "legal".
No. In most cases, right IS legal, and legal IS right. When it is not, it is time for legally changing the law. Apparently you aren't getting the hang of it...they are not the same thing at all, though they do reside in the same place occasionally.
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You are still mixing up "right" and "legal".
No. In most cases, right IS legal, and legal IS right. When it is not, it is time for legally changing the law. Apparently you aren't getting the hang of it...they are not the same thing at all, though they do reside in the same place occasionally. No, I do understand. You don't. Edit: I'm not going to debate this with you. Read Madison and Locke for starters, and get back to me.
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An unemployed Jester, is nobody's Fool.
the only real difference between a good tracker and a bad tracker, is observation. all the same data is present for both. The rest, is understanding what you're seeing.
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You are still mixing up "right" and "legal".
No. In most cases, right IS legal, and legal IS right. When it is not, it is time for legally changing the law. Apparently you aren't getting the hang of it...they are not the same thing at all, though they do reside in the same place occasionally. No, I do understand. You don't. Edit: I'm not going to debate this with you. Read Madison and Locke for starters, and get back to me. No thank you Mr superior. I will leave you with this which is legal, but definitely not right. Link.
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Since it is only illegal if you get caught I guess he got caught.
Thou shalt not kill the Kings animals. In the time of Richard the Lionheart a minor noble of Nottinghamshire, one Robin of Loxley, was outlawed for poaching deer. Now at that time the deer in a royal forest belonged to the king, and killing one of the king's deer was therefore treason, and punishable by death. Let's all kneel and bow our heads to the King
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Sounds like some people on this board need a short course on the difference between “Malum in se” and “Malum prohibitum”.
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Rough crowd today - eh, JStuart?
Seems like the poacher got the lawful penalty, but some aren't satisfied with that and want his hide. I gotta say, that's pretty damn fascist of 'em. Ya its just crazy wanting to protect a publicly owned natural resource. Publicly owned natural resource? You're delusional. You mean government owned animals. Even on private land they are still government owned property.
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Since it is only illegal if you get caught I guess he got caught.
Thou shalt not kill the Kings animals. In the time of Richard the Lionheart a minor noble of Nottinghamshire, one Robin of Loxley, was outlawed for poaching deer. Now at that time the deer in a royal forest belonged to the king, and killing one of the king's deer was therefore treason, and punishable by death. Let's all kneel and bow our heads to the King I am firmly in the camp of "the king can go f himself", whether he wears a crown or not.
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Since it is only illegal if you get caught I guess he got caught.
No sir, and a common fault in young people these days. It's illegal, weither or not you get caught. It's the difference between right and wrong, and when you say "it's only wrong if you get caught" you get warped values. That phrase (and justification for wrong behavior) needs to be stomped out without mercy. You do know that "illegal" and "wrong" aren't synonymous, right? Correct, in most instances. Perhaps integrity would fit the usage better. It's doing the right thing even though no one is watching. Integrity has nothing to do with following the law, either.
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Since it is only illegal if you get caught I guess he got caught.
No sir, and a common fault in young people these days. It's illegal, weither or not you get caught. It's the difference between right and wrong, and when you say "it's only wrong if you get caught" you get warped values. That phrase (and justification for wrong behavior) needs to be stomped out without mercy. You do know that "illegal" and "wrong" aren't synonymous, right? Correct, in most instances. Perhaps integrity would fit the usage better. It's doing the right thing even though no one is watching. Integrity has nothing to do with following the law, either.
You are still mixing up "right" and "legal".
No. In most cases, right IS legal, and legal IS right. When it is not, it is time for legally changing the law. Apparently you aren't getting the hang of it...they are not the same thing at all, though they do reside in the same place occasionally. No, I do understand. You don't. Edit: I'm not going to debate this with you. Read Madison and Locke for starters, and get back to me. You mean the guys who wrote about having a severely limited government? Yeah, I doubt they're as confused as you seem to be.
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Since it is only illegal if you get caught I guess he got caught.
No sir, and a common fault in young people these days. It's illegal, weither or not you get caught. It's the difference between right and wrong, and when you say "it's only wrong if you get caught" you get warped values. That phrase (and justification for wrong behavior) needs to be stomped out without mercy. You do know that "illegal" and "wrong" aren't synonymous, right? Correct, in most instances. Perhaps integrity would fit the usage better. It's doing the right thing even though no one is watching. Integrity has nothing to do with following the law, either. Yes, it does. It is integral to the type of man you choose to be.
An unemployed Jester, is nobody's Fool.
the only real difference between a good tracker and a bad tracker, is observation. all the same data is present for both. The rest, is understanding what you're seeing.
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In your world, would a man of integrity have obeyed or disobeyed the fugitive slave act?
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Since it is only illegal if you get caught I guess he got caught.
Thou shalt not kill the Kings animals. In the time of Richard the Lionheart a minor noble of Nottinghamshire, one Robin of Loxley, was outlawed for poaching deer. Now at that time the deer in a royal forest belonged to the king, and killing one of the king's deer was therefore treason, and punishable by death. Let's all kneel and bow our heads to the King so are you against poaching.....or it doesn't bother you?...….bob
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so are you against poaching.....or it doesn't bother you?...….bob
Depends entirely on the circumstance, if it is me then no, if it is you then probably not....if you are caught and have your wrist slapped I am not going to join the rest of the crowd and demand you be hung as well. But if you hurt someone in the commission of then I am going to be the one holding the rope.
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In your world, would a man of integrity have obeyed or disobeyed the fugitive slave act? .....or, FTM, the stamp act?
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Since it is only illegal if you get caught I guess he got caught.
Thou shalt not kill the Kings animals. In the time of Richard the Lionheart a minor noble of Nottinghamshire, one Robin of Loxley, was outlawed for poaching deer. Now at that time the deer in a royal forest belonged to the king, and killing one of the king's deer was therefore treason, and punishable by death. Let's all kneel and bow our heads to the King so are you against poaching.....or it doesn't bother you?...….bob Now the raptors and carnivores are the kings.
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In your world, would a man of integrity have obeyed or disobeyed the fugitive slave act? .....or, FTM, the stamp act? Tea tax?
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
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The lines are random as to what and why and how. For example If a guy gets 2 deer a year by law does it really matter when he does it or how, etc. I guess we could argue black and white and gray areas forever and never solve anything. The point is we have an obligation to the truth and what is morally right and screw what the overlords want. Ruining someone's life because he killed an animal that would have died in a year anyway?
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