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Any of you use the tractor to pull or move any of your other trailers?

Been looking at making one like this, but with my rear bale spear attachment. Have already ordered a raw steel gooseneck ball for the top, and receiver for the bottom. Got both for 30 bucks. A little welding, and it'll work as good as a store bought dedicated attachment.

Might come in handy.

Barry, we pull the son's 30' flatbed with a hitch on both CaseIH 7120. and 7230. I got the hitch with a Schuster trailer in 82.

You pulled the trailer while loaded, Richard?

Yes Barry, you may have seen pictures if us hauling both, big squares, and round bales.

The only trouble we have had is a poor operator lifting the three point when it was bolted down.

I’ve got a trailer spotter I slip on a loader fork.

LOL. I can guess who...

Now you got me curious. Sorry to be a pest... But how and why do you bolt the 3 point down?

That's fine Barry. The hitch bolts to the drawbar. That holds the down weight, I guess.

I'm not in the big tractor business, like you fellow are. I got a Ford 4000 and it has a stationary drawbar that you attach under the rear housing. Its just shorter than the lift arms, so I can leave it attached and still hook up to the disc or bush-hog.

It wouldn't be high enough for a goose neck, but works well for a bumper pull trailer.

I looked closer to the hitch you posted Barry. I see it has a top link holder. That would keep it from rotating.

Yessir.

That pic is just one for a Cat I tractor.

I have a rear bale spear setup that is Cat I & Cat II.

I'll post a pic after I get the hitches welded on it.

Not a great picture, and on a pile of junk. This is what we use.

Looks plenty stout!

I'm going to use mine like this...

Bigger tractor and trailer though.

They're really handy if you want to park your trailer in a tight spot. Much easier to maneuver backwards with a tractor.

Roger that.

One reason I want it is that I have a 35' gooseneck flatbed and tractor out at the olive farm that's in bad shape as far as muddy goes. Many times, taking my one ton pickup in, and hooking up to that trailer would not end well.

I think my big tractor would glide that trailer right out. Once on the county road, I could hook it up to the truck, and load the tractor.

We have a group of New Order Amish that have lived around here for about 60 years. They use as modern equipment as anyone else, and use tractors as their method of transportation. The only exception to that is on Sunday, when they use a horse and buggy to attend church. They modify their road tractors, and some of those tractors will easily run 45 MPH. Also, they will make a trailer out of an old pickup bed, hook the tractor PTO up to the rearend of the trailer, and when they get going, turn the tractor PTO on, put the tractor in neutral, and the trailer will power the tractor. I've seen some fixed up like that would absolutely fly.

They also use those tractors to pull heavy loads, such as gooseneck trailers. I've seen a number of them, but have never really paid attention to how they were hooked up. There's one fellow who does dozer work, and that's how he moves his dozer. If I go to the local hay auction Friday, there is usually one there who will have a gooseneck loaded with hay, and I'll see how he has his rigged up.

and even handier if you mount it up front....as far as 'parking' goes....

I just help out on the farm now days. Back when, I often thought a ball attachment on a loader would be handy. Some things are in the way no matter where you park them.

Do you raise olives?

I'm the manager at an olive farm here. 60,000 trees.

Was out there today with my Kawasaki Mule. Still too muddy to drive around much there. Been that way since Sept 15th. Got a whole year's rain in the last 4 months...

I went to Northern California last fall and run a OXBO 6420 last year. We harvested about 1,500 acres of Super High Density Olives.



I was supposed to leave for Australia in January to run a Braud in grapes. We screwed around until the last minute on getting my Visa, so I backed out.

I've thought about putting a ball on my bucket for the smaller trailers. My FEL won't lift my gooseneck.

I have a hole torched in the skid steer bucket. It's handy for moving farm equipment around. Works good when your trying to pack everything tight in the shed. Just drop a pin in and go.

I have a hole torched in one of my pallet forks for that. Works good too.

Fixing to get out and fire up the welding setup and put this all together.

Wind kept me away from any welding or cutting yesterday...

Took these pics this morning at the local hay auction of this setup.

False start..

Went to use my cutting torch and the acetylene ran out in about a minute. Guess I'll go into town after lunch... Dammit.

James, I see you are fastened to the frame with the gooseneck setup.

Looks stout. I'm going on the 3 point hitch with my attachment. My tractor is rated at lifting 3,960 lbs on the 3 pt. I bet your's will handle lots more.

I'm guessing I should be OK unless I get too crazy? Not really planning on using it to pull heavy loads. More geared towards moving a trailer around.

Barry, they pull some pretty heavy loads with that setup. For just moving a trailer, I'd think that using the lift arms would work fine. If I was using a trailer to pull a lot, I'd like the frame hookup. I'd feel like I could trust it a little better.

You need spare tanks Barry. Our son bought us out. I had three of each.

That Amish rig would be stout on the vertical,
But looks weak on the horizontal.
A three point would be the opposite.

Bolted to the frame, and attached to the arms would be best.
But, would tie up the lift, and be vulnerable to Richards "friend".

Years back, a fellow said about another, "I understand if a machine has a weak spot, Miller can find it"

I have found my share of "weak spots".

I like to think I am good with machines, and not hard on them.

But, when my head goes up my ass,
It goes in untill it hits the shoulder stops!🤤💩


I have gotten in trouble that way!

Just got back from town with filled spare tanks of larger capacity.

I can rent the much bigger tanks, but that's about $35 a month now...

Last time I had big tanks, I think my lease on them was about $100 a year.

Guy at the welding supply place informed me we can't legally buy the big tanks anymore. They have to be leased... (Probably just another thing they don't trust us with..)

Barry, I leased my first two tanks in 1968 for 25 years. When the lease was up, they did not come looking for me, and did not look for them.

I traded a Model A fender for an oxygen tank. I had to {gulp), buy the second acetylene tank. The third set were a gift from A next door Canadian friend that di not want them.

I posted pictures in the welder thread.

My dad picked up my whole torch kit for $145 about 10 years ago at an auction.

Torch, regulators, hoses and large tanks.

Actually, it was like several different tanks, one for shielding gas, medium torch set and something else.
The little private supply guy checked out all the torch stuff, and did a straight up swap to the tanks
I wanted. We all won.

Yes, I still have the bill of sale.
At one time they wouldn't sell us tanks around here.
They would swap, if you could prove they were yours, but, they didn't like it.

Can't recall....

How often are C2H2 and O2 tanks required to be hydrotested?

I own a set of tanks, they were my brothers, and he'd gotten them in a trade. I traded him a Betamax VCR for them many years ago. There was a business that would swap them out for me, but it's been 25 years since I used them, and that place has gone out of business. We made a cart for them, and even had a couple of sets of houses and torches to go along with them. It's a shame that I've got such a good set of cutting torches, and they're just sitting in a corner of the barn.

I hadta sell my welder and torch (and a whole shop of tools) when I got divorced. Everything I kept, had to fit in the truck and 6x12 trailer. Never replaced any of it, as I took a ranch job after.

Well, you got screwed on that deal James.
All you have is a set of torches worth $500+.
If you had held out, you could be sitting on a Betamax VCR.

I remember telling my brother that it was supposedly about to be obsolete. But, he was so anxious to get one that he wouldn't listen.

Finally got done welding this stuff together and painting it.

Finished!

Just reminds you even the simple jobs can have hiccups. (Got the new cutting torch bottles on a dolly now too.)

This should work for what I need.

Looks good Barry, may I borrow that? I need to find the woman that kept backing into my 67 Mustang paroral parking the years back!

That ought to work.

I can use the gooseneck hitch on the bale spear as is.

I welded the receiver hitch to it as well, just in case I needed it, but I'd have to take the spears off to use it.

Back of my tractor is filthy.

Guess I'll get the pressure washer out today and blast that grease off of it. It gets that way because when shredding with my big batwing, I pump lots of grease into the CV joint there at the PTO.

It then slings it everywhere. Better than spending $1300 for a new driveshaft assy...

Ima have to add a ball on top of my bale spear Barry. Good idea!

I got both the 2 5/8" ball and the receiver hitch for under $30.

Sure beats over $300 for the attachment!

Good deal.

Got around to it a couple weeks ago. However, I wanted the welds to hold, so I went to my mechanic/machinist/smith/welder neighbor.

Weld-on hooks (2) on the bucket plus 2" ball. 2-5/16 ball on the hay spear. Spear needed a little extension so the upper arm had room. Welds are a bit lumpy as it was cold when we did this.

HomeyD does not have an exact match for Kubota orange!

Looks good!

I did have occasion to try mine out... on my big, 35' tandem gooseneck. Worked like a charm.

I was a bit worried about the weight, since that trailer weighs 8,000 pounds empty. But it seemed to work fine. Moved the trailer all over with it.

IB, I've seen those chain hooks welded onto buckets before. That looks handy as well...

My 45hp tractor has very HD D-rings and bracket welded on the top of the bucket. I use those often.

Had limited options pulling the wrapped bales off the trailer during the winter. In addition to the hooks, I can loop a tow strap on the ball.

What I've read is to weld the hooks in line w the FEL arms, so we did. Is that how your D's are mounted?

I put them just to the outside of the FEL arms. That way any chains or whatever I have hooked up to them are working outside the hydraulic cylinders, and not likely to put those cylinders in a bind, or obstruct movement of them.