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I got given to me by my dear old friend a Winchester model 70 pre-64 30-06 and its nice and want to keep it original with the steel butt plate . Here was my problem I had major shoulder surgery on my right shoulder and I don`t think my shoulder was ready for a kick from the steel butt plate. so I used a less recoil rifle that had a rubber pad on it and I shot my biggest buck ever of our family it scored 189 b.c. non-typical dressed 225 lbs. and I sure wished it would have been with the old 30-06 Winchester model 70 ! Why don't you take off the steel butt pad. Put it in your gun cabinet & use a Pachmayr Decelerator Slip On recoil pad. That's I do on a shotgun for my wife to turkey hunt with.
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I got given to me by my dear old friend a Winchester model 70 pre-64 30-06 and its nice and want to keep it original with the steel butt plate . Here was my problem I had major shoulder surgery on my right shoulder and I don`t think my shoulder was ready for a kick from the steel butt plate. so I used a less recoil rifle that had a rubber pad on it and I shot my biggest buck ever of our family it scored 189 b.c. non-typical dressed 225 lbs. and I sure wished it would have been with the old 30-06 Winchester model 70 ! My 7600 has a plastic butt plate and i got a slip on limbsaver pad - try wally world. It is very nice, softens the recoil. also you could try loading down/reduced load to get to a 300 savage or 308 level round.
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I hate to say this is the first season I haven’t owned a 30-‘06. I filled my tag with my 6.5 Creedmoor this year and my 280AI was back up. I will have another ‘06 and it’s just a matter of time. It’s truly hard to beat a 30-‘06 for deer hunting when you stoke it with 150-165 gr cup and cores at reasonable velocity. My favorites are 150 partitions around 2900 and 165 inter loks at about 2800 and change.
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If I had to snivel most of my 30-06 rifles shot better with 165 to 180 grain bullets than the 150's. Not horribly better but my two current 30-06 rifles are easy under an inch rifles with 165 and 180 grain bullets but with the 150's they hover around just over an inch to 1 1/4 inches for three shots. The Weatherby Vanguard does it with 5 shots. With both rifles and 165 gr, Ballistic Tips and Sierra BTHP's powered By IMR 4350 they are awesome shooters. I guess I could suffer along with 1 1/4 inch groups and 150 gr. Partitions if I have to. As for factory ammo I have recovered more 150 gr. Corelokts than any other bullet but every bullet was recovered from a dead deer. Too bad that Remington stopped selling the Corelokts at the bulk prices.
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I can't say if I have killed more deer with the 30-06 or my 7x57, both great deer guns. Wow, you must be really old. Was watching Roger Raglin today. When asked, “which cartridge is the best for Deer?”, his reply made me laugh. He said, “Friend, you can walk into Bass Pro Shop or your local gun store & they will have dozens, if not hundreds of rifles lined up. Every one of them will kill a Deer stone dead.” Thought that was funy, yet profound. Feeling pretty old for sure, 62 is getting up there.
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Well, only once, a modest buck west of Ft Collins in 1980. Seemed to do all right at 25 feet. Then it went north to Alaska, and it and a couple others have done serious damage to a number of moose, caribou, sheep and black bear since, and counting.... That first one even killed a ptarmigan once
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You can't go wrong with the .30-06 and a good 165gr bullet IMO. True Dat! I'm crass enough to run a 165 grain Hornady Interlock SP in my Browning X-Bolt and 180 grain Hornady Interlock RN in my Remington 7600 Carbine. Didn't shoot anything with them this year, in fact I'm sad to report that I didn't even hunt with the 7600 this year. From what I've seen, a 165/168 grain bullet in a 30-06 knocks the snot out of deer!
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I have three, they are fantastic.
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Shot one for years and killed a lot of game with it. 165 corelocs and interlocks made a lot of meat. Started shooting it on paper and got disgusted with my cold bore accuracy so now I do most of my big game killing with a .300 WM and my old .30-06 is now rebarreled to a .257 Roberts AI. Over the past several years I can only think of one shot with the .300 wm that I would have been hesitant to take with the .30-06 and even that was doable if the .06 was accurate enough.
I just picked up a Husqvarna 1640 barreled action in .30-06 that if it is accurate and I can restock reasonably may find its way onto some hunts in the next few years. If it proves accurate but too boring I do have .30 Gibbs dies and may punch it out.
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For some reason I have trouble hanging on to them. The latest, and hopefully last, is a well-worn Husky 640 (FN) that came with a Lyman 4x. Needs a bit of TLC, but I got it field-ready. After getting it zeroed, the last four went into an inch using my standard '06 whitetail load, 150gr NPT over 46gr H4895, pretty much a .308, but still a bit hotter than the load the '06 made its bones with way back when, with a better bullet to boot. That load has shot very well in the last three rifles I tried it in.
I said it needs some TLC, but the inside of the barrel looks new. I gotta put down at least one with the new Barrett first, but then this one deserves a turn.
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Used a 7600 carbine for years until I sold it to a neighborhood kid.. An obnoxiously loud flame thrower but I liked it. So much in fact, that I just bought another.
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I never really had much of a desire to have an 06 and then I inherited a left-hand Savage 110, when my fil died. It is a real nice-looking rifle and so I thought that I would load up some Hornadys and kill some deer with it. It shoots the 150 Interlocks at 3000 fps extremely well. I have lots of opportunity, as I do depredation work on my neighbor's farm. That 150 hammers deer and I have shot a number of them with it. One evening, six does appeared in a field that I was watching. Only three made it out.
I have become a real fan of the 6.5s-Creed and .260. I was considering making the 06, a 6.5-06, but it shoots so well, that I decided to get some more casings and build up my 06 stash! The one thing that I do not like, is that rifle kicks worse than my 7 mags. That original hard butt plate is no joke! I may have to cure that.
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For some reason I have trouble hanging on to them. The latest, and hopefully last, is a well-worn Husky 640 (FN) that came with a Lyman 4x. Needs a bit of TLC, but I got it field-ready. After getting it zeroed, the last four went into an inch using my standard '06 whitetail load, 150gr NPT over 46gr H4895, pretty much a .308, but still a bit hotter than the load the '06 made its bones with way back when, with a better bullet to boot. That load has shot very well in the last three rifles I tried it in.
I said it needs some TLC, but the inside of the barrel looks new. I gotta put down at least one with the new Barrett first, but then this one deserves a turn. I tried to get my newest 30-06 to like the same charge weight of IMR 4895 and 150 gr. Partitions. After several variations on bullet seating depth and still no joy ( 1.4" groups) I switched to IMR 4350 and got a load that will put three Partitions in the magic inch but velocity is in the 2900 fps range. Good thing it has a good recoil pad but more than needed for a treestand load.
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Shot one for years and killed a lot of game with it. 165 corelocs and interlocks made a lot of meat. Started shooting it on paper and got disgusted with my cold bore accuracy so now I do most of my big game killing with a .300 WM and my old .30-06 is now rebarreled to a .257 Roberts AI. Over the past several years I can only think of one shot with the .300 wm that I would have been hesitant to take with the .30-06 and even that was doable if the .06 was accurate enough.
I just picked up a Husqvarna 1640 barreled action in .30-06 that if it is accurate and I can restock reasonably may find its way onto some hunts in the next few years. If it proves accurate but too boring I do have .30 Gibbs dies and may punch it out. It's amazing how much meat you could make using a rifle with disgusting accuracy. There may be a lesson here.
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For some reason I have trouble hanging on to them. The latest, and hopefully last, is a well-worn Husky 640 (FN) that came with a Lyman 4x. Needs a bit of TLC, but I got it field-ready. After getting it zeroed, the last four went into an inch using my standard '06 whitetail load, 150gr NPT over 46gr H4895, pretty much a .308, but still a bit hotter than the load the '06 made its bones with way back when, with a better bullet to boot. That load has shot very well in the last three rifles I tried it in.
I said it needs some TLC, but the inside of the barrel looks new. I gotta put down at least one with the new Barrett first, but then this one deserves a turn. I tried to get my newest 30-06 to like the same charge weight of IMR 4895 and 150 gr. Partitions. After several variations on bullet seating depth and still no joy ( 1.4" groups) I switched to IMR 4350 and got a load that will put three Partitions in the magic inch but velocity is in the 2900 fps range. Good thing it has a good recoil pad but more than needed for a treestand load. I also could never quite make IMR4895 work with 150 gr. .30-'06 loads. H414 and IMR4064 did pretty good, but not as well as IMR4350 like you found.
Brushbuster: "Is this thread about the dear heard or there Jeans?" Plugger: "If you cant be safe at strip club in Detroit at 2am is anywhere safe?" Deer are somewhere all the time To report a post you disagree with, please push Alt + F4. Thank You.
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Although I've killed more deer with a 30-06 than any other caliber I haven't used it in the last 5 seasons. Too many rifles too few tags. I took deer with a 6.5 swede, 22-250 and 35 Remington this season. That said if I was limited to one rifle it would be a 30-06.
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I also could never quite make IMR4895 work with 150 gr. .30-'06 loads. H414 and IMR4064 did pretty good, but not as well as IMR4350 like you found.
I’ve killed more WT with 150 HSP than 165s. When I used the 150s , JOC load of 52.5 gs IMR 4064 gave +/- 2900 fps and very good accuracy. That Load was also in a Lyman manual. When I changed to 165 HBTSP I Load H 205 — on my last pound — for 2950 +/- . H 4350 is up next. Jerry
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Shot one for years and killed a lot of game with it. 165 corelocs and interlocks made a lot of meat. Started shooting it on paper and got disgusted with my cold bore accuracy so now I do most of my big game killing with a .300 WM and my old .30-06 is now rebarreled to a .257 Roberts AI. Over the past several years I can only think of one shot with the .300 wm that I would have been hesitant to take with the .30-06 and even that was doable if the .06 was accurate enough.
I just picked up a Husqvarna 1640 barreled action in .30-06 that if it is accurate and I can restock reasonably may find its way onto some hunts in the next few years. If it proves accurate but too boring I do have .30 Gibbs dies and may punch it out. It's amazing how much meat you could make using a rifle with disgusting accuracy. There may be a lesson here. Yep, I have said several times that I should have just kept shooting animals instead of paper
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wink_man,
Downright PURTY rifle!!!!
I currently have 3 Model 760 rifles in .30-06 & none that have wood that handsome.
Fwiw, my "truck gun" is a Model 760 (with a 2X scope) from AUG 1957 & my usual load for it is "Mexican match", i.e., Lake City Match, with the FMJ bullet pulled & replaced with a JSP. (That rifle shoots FAR better, even with the good scope, than I do with my 72YO eyes. - Thankfully, the ranges to hunt WT/exotics in South TX are short & the deer are numerous, everywhere.)
yours, tex
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I like 59 grains of IMR 4350 with a Nosler Partition. That load works well in all three of mine. H4895 works well in my Garand.
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