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120 NBT for me. Thinking about stepping up to a 140 NAB for heavier mule deer this year; possibly out to 400 yards with a 7-08. Thoughts/needed?
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Apparently taking 17 kinds of big game up to 1000+ pounds with 14 bullets from 120-175 grains isn't enough of a "field test."
Will start immediately right now, loading every possible bullet, then trying to win the Weatherby Award by traveling the world to slay every obscure animal possible. Of course, I'd have to do it with both cartridges, because they're so different! Good to see you getting the bases covered. As you know I have only very limited experience, and only with the 7x57, mostly using 175 grain NPTs and a few times with a 162 BTSP Hornady... Looking back I wish I'd tried those 120s and 140s cause my critters always appeared too dead. Maybe this new .275 Rigby with 150s in it won't kill them quite as much...or maybe more...
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120 NBT for me. Thinking about stepping up to a 140 NAB for heavier mule deer this year; possibly out to 400 yards with a 7-08. Thoughts/needed? This rather large member of the Deer family died from a single 140 AB from my dad’s 7mm-08, but 225 yards, not 400. I’ve killed mulies past 500 with my 7mm-08 but with 140 grain Partitions. P
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Tom,
Yeah, it's amazing how dead isn't enough for some hunters....
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Tom,
Yeah, it's amazing how dead isn't enough for some hunters.... Again, I have but little experience.... I did kill a deer dead once with a .223...but thats for another thread......
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According my hunting notes, I've now taken 17 kinds of big game with the 7mm-08 and 7x57--including the "javelina to moose" range suitability suggested by Jack O'Connor in THE HUNTING RIFLE, including elk, wildebeest and kudu. The bullets have included:
140 Barnes TTSX, 160 TSX 139 Hornady Interlock BTSP and Spire Point 120, 140 and 150 Nosler Ballistic Tips 140, 160 and 175 Nosler Partitions 156 Norma Oryx 160 North Fork soft-point 160 Sierra GameKing 140 Trophy Bonded Bear Claw
None of them "failed." From this I have surmised that the 7-08 and 7x57 work very well on big game.
John: I don't know if you mentioned, but which weight have you taken the most game with in 7x57? Most of your articles mention 160-grains, but those are just the ones you've written about. Thanks RM
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I've used 160's (or thereabouts) largely because they all tend to shoot to the same place at 100 yards in my present 7x57. As a result, I could take several loads with different bullets along when on a "cull" hunt where a bunch of animals will be taken, and not have to tweak the scope, thus being able to get a lot of comparative bullet data.
But in my experience bullets of about 160 grains also work very well in the 7x57, at "conventional" ranges out to 200 yards, whether the animals is pronghorn-sized at 400 or moose-sized much closer. Are they perfect for every use? Dunno, having seen a lot of other weights work well. But the animals shot with 160's all fell pretty quickly.
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I've never had to shoot a mule deer farther than about 175 yards. In my opinion, stalking to get within 30-30 range is a lot of fun! Sherwood
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I've never had to shoot a mule deer farther than about 175 yards. In my opinion, stalking to get within 30-30 range is a lot of fun! Sherwood Sherwood,hate to tell you this,but you look like a younger Ingwe. Sorry.
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In my 7-08 I settled on the 120gr. Nosler BT.
If I still had a dinosaur/7X57 I'd use the 175gr RN exclusively. Simply because, why not.
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In my 7-08 I settled on the 120gr. Nosler BT. Me too. Works well. Good penetration, good internal damage. Very effective WT round. DF
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I've never had to shoot a mule deer farther than about 175 yards. In my opinion, stalking to get within 30-30 range is a lot of fun! Sherwood Sherwood,hate to tell you this,but you look like a younger Ingwe. Sorry. He is one HANDSOME BEAST!
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I'm sorta new here, sorta in that I signed on several years back but haven't been back. But I've been observing this forum and I realize now how much I've been missing out.
As far as 7x57 and 7-08 bullets go I now have a new 7x57 build that I'm fitting into the stock as we speak. I have had great luck with Sierra Game King Bullets on deer and hogs. I really like 140 grain bullets so this is what I'm going with on my maiden hunt with the 7x57. I also have a .280 Rem.and a 7mm RM and have had good luck with 140 game kings in both of them. My go to rifle for white Tail Deer is a .270 Winchester and I shoot 130 grain Game Kings almost exclusively at deer and hogs ln it. So 140 Grain Game Kings is an easy choice for me.
Texas Deer are not made of steel and I like to knock animals down fast. I hate tracking them in Southern Texas brush. Everything here either bites ya or sticks ya. And some of that what bites ya is definitely hazardous to your health so heck with that garbage. I like em DRT thank you, and Game Kings really wreck a deer's plumbing and put him down fast but still penetrate good enough to get into the boiler room and put him down for the count.
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I've never had to shoot a mule deer farther than about 175 yards. In my opinion, stalking to get within 30-30 range is a lot of fun! Sherwood Sherwood,hate to tell you this,but you look like a younger Ingwe. Sorry. He is one HANDSOME BEAST! That's the "before" pic. Anyone have an "after" they can post so the poor devil knows what's coming?
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I've never had to shoot a mule deer farther than about 175 yards. In my opinion, stalking to get within 30-30 range is a lot of fun! Sherwood Sherwood,hate to tell you this,but you look like a younger Ingwe. Sorry. He is one HANDSOME BEAST!
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140 Nosler Partition in my 7mm-08
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Dude, I don't know much aibout y'all here yet other than you're definitely gun guys and hunters and better company can't be found. But I like what Sherwood said, get within .30-30 range. To me that's hunting.
I have a 7x57 that I've not shot yet. I just had it built. It's on a Zastava Commercial Mauser action I bought off a Gun Broker Auction about 10 years back. Mile High Shooter sold me the barrel and gave me a stock for it. I've always shot a .270-6mm-.308 and .280 and never ventured into the 7x57. But I've just heard too much good about it not to try. Actually I like em all. If it burns ammonium nitrate and goes boom I'm in love.
In my .280 I have really liked 140s and 150s. I've always had great success with Sierra Game Kings in both my .270 and .280. So maybe that charm will extend over into the 7x57. Game Kings have always been accurate and penetrated and then expanded well for me. If they'll do it at 7x57 velocities then I think they will be a winner.
Sorry about being repetitious but I just woke up and read the last couple post and at this time of morning at my age things are a bit cloudy.
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Welcome to the Fire, Filaman.
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