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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
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Didn't you use to push Huskemaw scopes on your Show?

LOL. laugh

Might want to fact check before posting.

Just Sayin. cool

Best of the west correct? If not I apologize.


The Best of the West pushes Huskemaw but only after I left.

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Originally Posted by Deep_In_The_Rut
Max range would be 700-800yds. Intended range would 400-600yds. I would dial.
Durability is a concern and I know NF certainly fits this bill; but is most likely overbuilt for me (which I like, but am hesitant to pay that kind of money; I don't need to pound nails with it). I guess what I am getting at, is how well the V4 will hold up?

I like the NXS but don't like the MOAR reticle for hunting.


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Originally Posted by Deep_In_The_Rut
Max range would be 700-800yds. Intended range would 400-600yds. I would dial.
Durability is a concern and I know NF certainly fits this bill; but is most likely overbuilt for me (which I like, but am hesitant to pay that kind of money; I don't need to pound nails with it). I guess what I am getting at, is how well the V4 will hold up?

I like the NXS but don't like the MOAR reticle for hunting.


I like the IHR illuminated reticle in the NXS. That would be the NF scope I would buy.

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Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Personally,I wouldn't trust the V4 for a dialing scope. I wouldn't be surprised if it even dials accurately," for a while."



Personally you are full of schit.

I have both the NF and a Zeiss V4 so I don't have to guess.

I have used and abused the NF SHV for over a year and it has been twisted to 700 + several times and used to pop rocks of my deck across a canyon. Returned to zero perfectly. Two hunting seasons and back packed, ridden on Llamas,etc Still holding zero.

The Zeiss has very crisp clicks. In setting the Zero stop all the internal parts are steel or brass. Very positive. Initially zeroed at 200 I have twisted it to full elevation and back to zero again. Back and forth and it tracked perfectly returning to zero and printing a group exactly where I dialed. Time will tell how it holds up but right now it seems dead nuts solid.

You personally wouldn't trust one...………………..yet you never even touched one... amazing


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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Damn, Night Force or Zeiss?

Hope I never lose that big of a bet. laugh


Didn't you use to push Huskemaw scopes on your Show?

What's wrong with Huskemaw?

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Originally Posted by skeen
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
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Damn, Night Force or Zeiss?

Hope I never lose that big of a bet. laugh


Didn't you use to push Huskemaw scopes on your Show?

What's wrong with Huskemaw?


Nothing , they were an unknown quantity when they first showed up.

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Originally Posted by leftycarbon
Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Personally,I wouldn't trust the V4 for a dialing scope. I wouldn't be surprised if it even dials accurately," for a while."



Personally you are full of schit.

I have both the NF and a Zeiss V4 so I don't have to guess.

I have used and abused the NF SHV for over a year and it has been twisted to 700 + several times and used to pop rocks of my deck across a canyon. Returned to zero perfectly. Two hunting seasons and back packed, ridden on Llamas,etc Still holding zero.

The Zeiss has very crisp clicks. In setting the Zero stop all the internal parts are steel or brass. Very positive. Initially zeroed at 200 I have twisted it to full elevation and back to zero again. Back and forth and it tracked perfectly returning to zero and printing a group exactly where I dialed. Time will tell how it holds up but right now it seems dead nuts solid.

You personally wouldn't trust one...………………..yet you never even touched one... amazing


Lefty C



Thanks man - this is the type of review / response I was hoping for. I appreciate the insight.

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Originally Posted by leftycarbon
Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Personally,I wouldn't trust the V4 for a dialing scope. I wouldn't be surprised if it even dials accurately," for a while."



Personally you are full of schit.

I have both the NF and a Zeiss V4 so I don't have to guess.

I have used and abused the NF SHV for over a year and it has been twisted to 700 + several times and used to pop rocks of my deck across a canyon. Returned to zero perfectly. Two hunting seasons and back packed, ridden on Llamas,etc Still holding zero.

The Zeiss has very crisp clicks. In setting the Zero stop all the internal parts are steel or brass. Very positive. Initially zeroed at 200 I have twisted it to full elevation and back to zero again. Back and forth and it tracked perfectly returning to zero and printing a group exactly where I dialed. Time will tell how it holds up but right now it seems dead nuts solid.

You personally wouldn't trust one...………………..yet you never even touched one... amazing


Lefty C



Yea,trusting a scope that I know and have used over one that just showed up makes me full of schit. You wouldn't say that to me in person.

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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
It was designed for dialing.



If you don’t mind, where did you hear this? I have heard and read that Zeiss built both the V4 and 6 for dialing, or that they changed the erector, etc., multiple places, yet not from Zeiss. When they brought them out (V4/6) I asked one of their engineers that was telling me how great the scopes are- “what about the erector system for dialing?” His reply? “Iz de same good wun we had”. Or something like that.

He could’ve been wrong, but I doubt it. I haven’t used a V4 hardly at all; rarely does a manufacturer make the lower prices model better than the higher priced.

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any other known thoughts on the "new" zeiss conquest v4 line?? can the 3-12x56mm version be dialed somewhat? I know it doesn't have a target turret but a capped turret if I understand correctly. will Zeiss's hunting app work for that particular scope? I'm not really a turret twisted either but the thought intrigues me for sure. I usually sight my 260 rem 2" high at 100yds to be dead nuts at 200 yds and 7.5-8" low at 300 yds. but, it would be nice to set dead on at 100yds and twist the turret some to be dead on a various distances and not be just close enough.
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Originally Posted by Formidilosus
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
It was designed for dialing.



If you don’t mind, where did you hear this? I have heard and read that Zeiss built both the V4 and 6 for dialing, or that they changed the erector, etc., multiple places, yet not from Zeiss. When they brought them out (V4/6) I asked one of their engineers that was telling me how great the scopes are- “what about the erector system for dialing?” His reply? “Iz de same good wun we had”. Or something like that.

He could’ve been wrong, but I doubt it. I haven’t used a V4 hardly at all; rarely does a manufacturer make the lower prices model better than the higher priced.


I called Zeiss customer service . According to the person I spoke to it is a new erector system designed for the American Market. Internet rumors say that a Nightforce higherup was hired by Zeiss.

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Form,

Not saying the Zeiss is the best thing since sliced bread, but There are a lot of things that appear to be good. My "limited" testing seems to be positive



This scope is going on a hunting rifle and will get used in a hunting environment much like The SHV that I have.


Not even suggesting it's in the same league as a NXS

However it turns out it will be based on actually using one.

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I'll preface this by saying I am NOT a turret twister per se. But I will not own a scope that shows any inklings of imprecision in adjustments or the inability to return to zero after being wrung out. I will also not own any scope that needs to "settle in." Either it adjusts corrects from the outset and with each and every shot or it goes back for repair and then gets sold/traded.

I am on my 2nd V4 3-12x56 and have had zero problems with any of the mechanical aspects. Both have done exactly as designed. If not, I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable putting one on my favorite Contender: the 7mm Bullberry. Here's a snapshot from a few minutes ago. This 3-12x56 needs to be properly christened and is awaiting a cooperative hog or coyote. grin

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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter

I called Zeiss customer service . According to the person I spoke to it is a new erector system designed for the American Market. Internet rumors say that a Nightforce higherup was hired by Zeiss.






Originally Posted by leftycarbon

Form,

Not saying the Zeiss is the best thing since sliced bread, but There are a lot of things that appear to be good. My "limited" testing seems to be positive



This scope is going on a hunting rifle and will get used in a hunting environment much like The SHV that I have.


Not even suggesting it's in the same league as a NXS

However it turns out it will be based on actually using one.

Lefty C







Appreciate the responses guys.

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Originally Posted by leftycarbon
Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Personally,I wouldn't trust the V4 for a dialing scope. I wouldn't be surprised if it even dials accurately," for a while."


...You personally wouldn't trust one...………………..yet you never even touched one... amazing


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Bobby - always posting great pics, nice set up.

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