Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Long Range Hunting 6.5 Creedmoor vs 6.5 PRC

Another thing, don’t use Remington examples to make points about Hornady.

Different animal.

DF

With the creemoor’s popularity and the PRC being marketed as the creedmoor’s big brother I think it has a chance. What guy that enjoys his creedmoor wouldn’t want it’s big brother

260 Remington

6.5x55

Virtually the exact same ballistics as the 6.5 Creedmoor.

Maybe there's more to it than ballistics.

Carry on with your predictions...

David

LOL - if they make a 7-06AI I’m in!

Or a 90+ year old 6.8-06 using high BC class 150gr+ bullets.

Sent a box of 6.8-06 with 150g LRAB to Daughter #1 earlier today via courier (aka Mrs. Coyote_hunter). B.C. is .591 and chrono'd average is 2910fps.

Built her a box of 145g ELD-X this evening, need to test them before I hand them off. Should be about the same velocity - same powder charge, same COL. The difference in length is in the boat tails. B.C. is .536. The ELD-X are for practice, as they are quite a bit less expensive. Calculator suggests 1.8" additional drop and drift at 600 yards.

I think the success of the 6.5 Creedmoor was the hornady support with high quality, highly accurate, factory ammunition and factory rifle adoption of the caliber (with the right twist). 6.5x55 too old, .260 launch was bungles by remington (but still developed a strong following and many of the tactical guys who still prefer it to the creed because of the extra bit of space and the availability of brass).

I don't think the 6.5 PRC cuts into the creed, I think it benefits from the brand association, support from hornady, strong likelihood of rifles being chambered in it, and the sudden ascendence of 6.5 as a caliber.

I think 6.5 PRC goes straight at the .270 and .280 and some will say because its a modern cartridge it will be more accurate than those.

While there is a high percentage of reloaders on this forum, success goes to the rounds that drive more factory ammunition and rifles. That drives adoption by the masses and that becomes a re-enforcing cycle.

My .02

Those who have knowledge of the history of companies introducing new cartridges understand how difficult it is to bring one to success. .It's not your passion for a particular cartridge. It's about acceptance by the majority of shooters/hunters. The 6.5 PRC is a good cartridge. There have been many good 6.5's with equal ballistics that have failed in the past. What has held the PRC back is the lack of an affordably rifle. First it was only available as an expensive custom rig. Now Ruger has brought it out in another expensive heavy 11 lb rifle. The average hunter is looking at price. This is evident by the considerable sales of rifles like the Savage Axis & Ruger American. Then there is the used gun market. There are ton's of inexpensive used rifles available. From a pure business perspective if the 6.5 PRC were brought out in a standard Ruger Hawkeye , or American to gain hunter acceptance it would have a much greater likelihood of success. . Then bring on the specialty more expensive rifles like the Long Range Hunter. Your not likely to see many 11 lb rifles in the hunting field no matter what the caliber.
Add a scope & mount ,at least 1 1/2 lbs. Now 12 1/2 lbs/ Add a sling & ammo, now a good 13 1/2 lbs.

" Those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to live it again"
Winston Churchill

The 6.5 PRC will benefit from the same support you noted above, support that helped the CM become what it is. As I've posted before, it's the whole package that hadn't been laid out this well, been this coordinated before.

I think the 6.5 PRC will cut more into the 6.5-06, 6.5-284, 6.5 GAP 4S, 6.5 SAUM, 6.5 WSM, etc. market share more than .270 or 280/.280AI. The .270 is too established as a hunting round, the 7mm's are in a different category, IMO. Target shooters tend to lead the charge with these type rounds. Hunters tag along.

It's really amazing how 6.5's have become so popular in the U.S., a big change from back when I started reloading. Thanks goes to the target crowd.

IMO,

DF

Sorry for the confusion Brad. What would be the differences in the 6.5CM and PRC that you have both the CM and PRC?

You keep saying “it’s dying” and “what’s holding it back” like you have no idea they just introduced the 6.5 PRC...