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We now owe 21 trillion dollars and to put that in perspective, it is equivalent to paying $28,747,433.26 on a 21 trillion dollar debt every day for 2,000 years without paying any interest. If the 21 trillion had an annual interest rate of 5%, the payment would over $57,000,000.00 per day. These payments factor in the extra day on a leap year.


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Whats the fix?


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Tell the foreign owned banking cartel to take a hike.


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Originally Posted by watch4bear
Whats the fix?

Universal living wage, free health care, free college, expanded EBT, and open borders.


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The solution is to stop spending money when political donors or "votes" demand it.
The reason federal politics is so toxic is because getting a knife into the pig is so easy and so lucrative, there's so much meat to carve off.
Keep in mind the "debt" is only chump change in comparison to unsupported future obligations, that's over a hundred trillion.
We won't be the first to go, but the Greeks kind of hint at what the future holds. The entire world is on the way to a Weimar fiscal collapse.


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Let the democrats have it and they will break the bank.

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It will not end pretty. Both parties are toxic and cannot resist the urge to spend money or give away freebies in exchange for votes... the USA has about 20 more years before collapse


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Originally Posted by sportingspecialist
Tell the foreign owned banking cartel to take a hike.
Close. We call in the debt that the rest of the world owes us for bailing their asses out of WWII. Wipe the slate clean with Europe, China, Japan, etc.

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Or, better yet. Just default on our debt. What are the other countries going to do about it. Will China stop selling us anything? Hell no. If they did their entire economy would go into to the toilet overnight. Same with Europe, Japan, and Russia.

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Originally Posted by watch4bear
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The Catholic Church, they have the money and will bail us out and then we will be slaves to it.


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Whats the fix?

The Catholic Church, they have the money and will bail us out and then we will be slaves to it.


No way, we can't accept money from them. They have a wall so they must be intolerant meanies.


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The simple math is every man, women, and child in the US owes about $70K each to pay off that debt. Heck, economists have been saying for 30-40 years Social Security is insolvent and gonna tip over and essentially is a Ponzi scheme.

As a nation, we could declare bankruptcy I suppose and tell the world we aren't/can't pay what we owe.

So the value of the money will devalue. Which the entire world economy bases its financial transactions on the dollar and its value.

Wars have started over lesser situations.

Things are going to get sporty. Who knows when, but it might be in the not to distant future.

I am no economist. Ain't even exceptionally smart. But I don't see this situation ending well. For the US or the world for that matter.


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Originally Posted by Lennie
We now owe 21 trillion dollars and to put that in perspective, it is equivalent to paying $28,747,433.26 on a 21 trillion dollar debt every day for 2,000 years without paying any interest. If the 21 trillion had an annual interest rate of 5%, the payment would over $57,000,000.00 per day. These payments factor in the extra day on a leap year.


You never really have but two choices when it comes to debt...make more or spend less. President Trump is obviously in the "make more" camp. I salute him on that.


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End baseline increases. Cut all programs 10% and freeze them for 10yrs and see if things have improved. Won't happen, but it needs to.

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Nobody gives a schit anymore. Keep the rates down, keep printing, and spend the fugg outta all you can beg borrow and steal.

That seems to be the mantra.


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Originally Posted by watch4bear
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Spending more money building a useless wall? More tax cuts while increasing spending. That's been the answers for the last 2 years.

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Originally Posted by watch4bear
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See how much is in investment/401k and the like and I'll show you what "they" expect to "fix" it, should the need arise.

Of course the "fix" is provided by those in government, the same ones that created the problem....

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Originally Posted by watch4bear
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There's not one. That's why nobody in DC ever talks about it.

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Originally Posted by bannination
Originally Posted by watch4bear
Whats the fix?


Spending more money building a useless wall? More tax cuts while increasing spending. That's been the answers for the last 2 years.


How much did your boy black jesus and his minions add to it during his 8 yrs.
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