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400 is stretching it for me. 300 i can confidently hit without issue. I have shot snd hit targets out to 700 yards

The same argument could be made about shots at moving critters... regardless of “range”. Hunters need to know their personal limitations... be it range, recovery conditions, shooting position, wind, etc..... and the only way to KNOW that... is a lot of actual field shooting, and a bad experience or two.

Dogshooter, Exactly! The only possible exception would be that, some hunters (unethical hunter), when attempting to make the “long” shot, do not attempt to verify a hit or miss, if the animal shows no reaction to the shot.....which sometimes happens. Some merely call it a miss, without verification! To verify a long range shot, may use-up several hours of hunting time, whereas a closer range running shot can be more easily verified! It “boils down” to Hunter ethics or lack thereof! memtb

OK. I'd say that calling someone's credibility into question without being able to point to anything the've said that's not credible is what I'd call a "questionable post."

Does that work for you?

Everything you said in criticism of LR hunting shots also applies to shorter shots, as well as a whole host of things that could possibly go wrong with any shot while hunting. I’ve seen guys take 150 yard shots and argue with me about checking for signs of a hit becuase they were so sure they missed, or even because they obviously gut-shot an animal and it ran into a hell hole that they didn’t want to go into to track the poor critter. Ethical issues of cleanly killing and recovering an animal isn’t unique to LR shots.

Dogshooter is exactly right. Range is only one factor (and with the right gear and training, an easy one at that) that contributes to the difficulty assessment of a shot, and the ultimate decision to shoot or not based on 95% confidence in success.

They were. Smoke has a dry sense of humour at times, and some posters have erroneously taken him quite seriously.

I made an attempt to apologize on a public forum.....but that, “doesn’t appear to work for you”! memtb

TFF....

Smokes a hoot...He’s the pardner you have riding in the shotgun seat at a stop light who leans out the window and calls a dude weighing 270lbs with prison tats and a ponytail a f a g...Laffin 😎

This deserves another mention as memtb said as a part of his post. Is your animal hit?

I just experienced this on a cow hunt using a new rifle and chambering in 7/08 that I was not familiar with. I had only audible recognition that I punched my elk at 427 yards when I heard the smack of my first shot...The Immediate recoil took me off scope.

After the herd of elk cleared the area, I was left looking at the cow I had shot at, but, there wasn’t any visual signs I could see while scoping her that she was hit. I switched to my nocs to check the clear cut for an elk laid out flat. Satisfied that there wasn’t a dead elk laying, I scoped the lone cow again, watching her for anything that would say it had been hit...Finally, I saw it try to make a step, but she faulted. On my 2nd shot the cow collapsed, drt.

This was at 427 yards, and I couldn’t tell 100% for sure if I had connected other than trusting my hearing and experience...I have bumped a lot of animals farther with a bigger chambering and have had the animal do everything from fold up immediately to dropping their head and sway on their feet until they tilted and dropped, or drop at impact only to stand up again and start moving towards cover.

I have made more than a few trips down a mountain, across a stream, and up and over a saddle or two to reach an area where the fur was standing when me or a pard took the shot.

Many were located several yards from impact. Others were tracked and found where a finish shot was needed. Unfortunately, some left blood sign, but were never recovered that day, night or even the next day... I’m kind of a hard-ass that if we have blood but no body; Whoever took the shot is tagged out.

Personally, if you shoot long or short, and don’t have a body to see or a pard spotting to tell you it was a clear miss. You check. 😎

Apparently, it is my loss! memtb

Nah...You’re good brother 😁

Have shot a few deer and one elk at longer ranges, over the last couple years I shot two 120ish lb black Russian shoats from the back porch here at the farm, one at 522 yards the other 569 yards, technically I guess shooting from ones wife's pick nick table isn't hunting, but, it was cold and ill take the free groceries, rifle used on the pigs was a heavy 300 win mag firing 208gr a-maxes at 3K with Retumbo.

Now that sounds like a proper pig load...

Bob

Six hundy.

If the wind is right, anyway. I’ve killed out to 541, I’ve passed on closer.





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If you want to make a sincere apology I'll accept it but I don't think what you said was a sincere apology:

Everyone's "far" is different.

Never been tough to cypher,who shoots and who don't.

Hint.................

As close as I can get it.

1. Equipment...
2. Experience...
3. Conditions...
4. Respect and judgement...
5. Responsibility for outcome...
6. Reassess all above...
7. Move forward or backward as warranted...
8. Teach others if so inclined...
9. Live life, have fun, and don't squander your mortality!!!

Interesting read. Many times I`m struck by how casually we now take distance shooting, I suppose it`s mostly because we don`t have to quess at ranges anymore.LRF`s provide the answer. Wind is another matter, even with Krestrels, smart phone apps, etc. So for S&G I doug out one of my HP Score books from 1999, and the matches I shot at Eau Clare, Wi. Cross course, 200,300,600yrds. The 600 is slow fire, 20 shots prone with sling, iron sights. My match gun was a 40-x in 308...shot 168 Sierra`s, 42gn. 2520. We have two sighters before shooting for record, and 22 mins. time to do it. No rush. So, knowing the range, therefore come-ups, wind is the big factor. But we do have wind flage on both sides of the 20 point line. You can see the wind...watch it the whole match. The 10 ring is a little over 2 MOA wide, about 14 inches, kill zone of a deer?..X ring 1 MOA. Now I`m not the best shot..took me 6 years to make HM, but my first sighter shot, about 80% of the time droped in the 9 ring...wind. I miss read the wind. That`s enough miss to wound an animal. I did get better with time...but this lesson always sticks with me when I`m hunting. It`s not easy to make a first round kill shot at 6 or 5 or 4.