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I like that. I'd love to have a Zastava Mini Mauser or Howa Mini chambered in a little .35 cal. I'll bet Jess will stay busy reboring old bolt action .222s and .223s to this round.
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Looks like a .351 redux to me. Just a different rifle to send it downrange. Of course, there's nothing new under the sun.
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..............and Indiana wrote some half assed cartridge length rule in it too. No such restriction in Indiana any longer, 6mm and up is good to go now. Sorta true. On private land yes but on public land you still have the .35 cal and 1.16” min 1.80” max rules. I kept my .358 wssm in case I get drawn for military/refuge hunts. And yes the powers that be in our state sure came up with some dumb laws.
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The 350 legend don’t excite me one bit.
I’ll stick with the max.
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Winchester is introducing a new cartridge named.....the .350 legend. It appears to be a straight walled .223 case tapered to .357 diameter. That's all I know on this new intro. I assume Winchester is trying to fill a perceived gap for the states only allowing straight walled cases for deer hunting I'm glad to see it. I was considering building one anyway and went so far as to neck up .223 to .357 and play with seating various bullets. Then I found I wasn't the only one. It's called the .357 Max AR. It's the fastest, lightest recoiling round you can shove into an AR in a straight wall, .35" minimum state. https://mdws.forumchitchat.com/?forum=645266You can buy Starline .223 basic brass and forget all the forming.
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Might be some fun w/ 158 gr jhp.
I used to run about a thousand 110 jhp per year through the 30-06.
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Where is CashIsKing? He was doing something like this too.
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Man, it is going to get super redundant in here.
Looks like Big SHTITK finally passed his probationary period of one post per day. Only YOU,can keep you from saying something fhuqking STUPID...and I very much enjoy that you are powerless in the refrain. Hint......................
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Looks like a .351 redux to me. Just a different rifle to send it downrange. Of course, there's nothing new under the sun. The performance/capacity has long been there via a smattering of 'cats,but the 223 Parent is a huge foot in the door,by literal default. Hint...............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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It has my attention. I love .35 caliber. +2 Any word on muzzle velocity and bullets used for this one? We built a bunch of these 6 months ago... We are getting 2,850 fps with Hornady 110 gr. XTPs 125s, 140s and 158 are not slouchs either. Still testing 180s and 200s
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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They were called "357 AR Maximum Rimless"
Silly long name...
We renamed ours "358 Macho"
More of a joke than anything else, but if you search the web that name may come up as well.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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About 2,100fps with a 180 and about 2,000 with a 200.
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Accuracy is around 2"... May get better, but doubt we will ever get under 1" with pistol bullets.
FYI, 2,850 is WAY BEYOND the rated speed of an XTP... Will try on some hogs or coyotes this spring... Strongly suspect impact will be more of an RPG than normal bullet performance.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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We renamed ours "358 Macho"
More of a joke than anything else, but if you search the web that name may come up as well. Wow! Make sure you add "rifle" to that search too! 
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Supposed to "debut" next week. Guess there was some ticked a bit that the magazine picture got out before the SHOT show.
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Could be more than a little fun. Not really my thing but it would be interesting to see what it would do with heavy lead from one of the various molds available to the melting pot folks.
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I see it being a sleeper and folks gravitating that way.
Due the 223 Parent and Krunchenticker angles solely.................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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I see it being a sleeper and folks gravitating that way.
Due the 223 Parent and Krunchenticker angles solely................. Shut up Fug Stik. You wouldn't know *why* to use an AR if it bit your ass.
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Your surging Estrogen levels,are hilarious. Hint.
Congratulations?!?..................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Another bingo square so early?
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