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The short fat ones must get extra usage

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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
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It has my attention. I love .35 caliber.



+2

Any word on muzzle velocity and bullets used for this one?


We built a bunch of these 6 months ago...

We are getting 2,850 fps with Hornady 110 gr. XTPs

125s, 140s and 158 are not slouchs either.

Still testing 180s and 200s

Any word on twist rate?

Here is some history on my use of the 110 gr Speer Varminter in 30-06.

We initially loaded the first 100 in the '06 with a decent load of 3031 for an expected velocity around 3500 fps, just like I had successfully loaded 110 gr RN in the past. I took a shot at 100 yds, and missed the target clean. Walked up to fifty yds, still a complete miss. Thirty yards, complete miss, not a mark on the18 inch square target. WTF?????

This was in about 1980, and I had only been loading about a year, I was pretty much a novice.

So anyway, the next shot at fifteen yds left six or seven holes in the target. The bullet was fragmenting near the muzzle due to excessive RPM.

I slowed it sown to 2400 fps with 4198 and used that load for years on ground squirrels, musk rats, and pop cans. It was about a two moa load and I used it out to about 150 yd targets. If you could hit the water with it about 12 inches this side of a muskrat, it would lift the rodent about six feet into the air and drop him dead without a mark on his body. There was zero chance of a ricochet from the water's surface, not that it would have mattered on that muskrat infested reservoir. There was nothing down range, but a cheat grass bluff.

But this was in a commercial Winchester barrel intended to stabilize bullets up to 220 gr. I would be curious what could be done with the same bullet twisted 1 in 24".


We did about 20 barrels... All came from Green Mountain... Most were 1:14 .358s. Two guys wanted 1:20 .357s... No data yet on the .357s

.358s are shooting well.

I used the same 1:14 .358s on my .358W guns two years ago... Very consistent 1/2 MOA and 1/4 MOA if you slow down 200s to the 2,230 fps range.


If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.



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Originally Posted by hookeye
So Winchester is going to be making an AR ????????


My guess is Winchester's parent company (FN) announces an AR at SHOT chambered in .350 Legend.

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Originally Posted by joshf303
What states only allow straight walled cases?


Southern Michigan is one and I think Indiana. Hence all the hype around these parts for the 450 bushmaster. Michigan also has length requirements for this zone, so a 45-70 is too long, even though it closely resembles the bushmaster in performance. the reasoning is to limit the effective range of rifles in the heavily populated areas. Michigan's southern area has always been shotgun or muzzleloader only, until they passed the limited rifle rules a few years ago. Its really nice, since good sabot shotgun slugs are very expensive, about impossible to reload for, recoil excessively especially for kids, and have questionalble accuracy. The 450 bushy is a great alternative.


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Except for the fact that the knuckleheads in charge don't realize a 444, 30-30, 45-70, and similar have no advantage over the ballistics of a 450 or modern muzzleloader, which are completely legal.


Ohio first had a list of allowed cartridges, then they just went to anything straight 35 to 50 cal. The way it should be. Case length restrictions were about the stupidest idea attainable. So, that's why we have them.

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Originally Posted by KenMi
The short fat ones must get extra usage


That’s not nice to talk about Twig.


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