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DealinSuck,
The 35 Rem don't roll in a Krunchenticker. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Now you know.
Bless your heart..................... Easy to figure that out. The resident alcoholic did. The point was these ballistics have been disparaged for decades. But they are now great? For an AR? Yep. But numbers matter, Bullets are everything. And this is a 35 Rem. Hint. 
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DealinSuck,
That you are unable to grasp performance/platform ratios,is solely on you and your "means","abilities" and "comprehension". Staying 223 Parent and the Krunchenticker option,opens doors that have as of yet to be opened. Hint. Congratulations?!?
I very much enjoy,that STUPIDITY is no "act" for you.
Bless your heart,for doing your best.
Hint.................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Who gives a flying gnat's ass what it may or may not be chambered in at some point.
They didn't introduce it as such.
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Sweetheart,
It's already in AR's and has been for sometime. The Factory is just catching up. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Bless your heart for TRYING.
Hint.
Laughing!...............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Show an AR picture with that barrel stamp then, smartass.
Same as blah blah blah don't mean jack
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DUMB Fhuqk...it will only come as a "surprise" to you,that Facts are NOT predicated upon how amazingly fhuqking little you "know". Hint. Congratulations?!?
More than a few Makers have stamped different Monikers,for the same chambering.
Bless your heart.
Hint.
LAUGHING!...............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Geeze guys, y’all sound like a flock of Dems attacking Trump. New cartridges are introduced to sell guns, period - who doesn’t understand this basic fact? Certain states require straight-walled cases of a certain length to be legal, lots of handloaders have shortened .35 Remington brass to meet the regs, but non-handloaders are left out in the cold. This cartridge meets their needs, and introduces more bullets in .35 caliber for handloaders. If y’all spent more time thinking instead of arguing and being pig-headed this would be a much more interesting thread.....as it is it sounds more like the comments section on the CNN website.
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There's nothing "subjective"...which is/was the point and the only fhuqking reason it's so funny.
Hint!................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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So any wildcat 35 on 223 is the exact same.
That's good to know.
In the land of fairies, unicorns, and fantasy
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Nobody shoots Winchester 5.56 or 223 fodder in an AR either,because Winchester doesn't build that platform. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Bless your heart for TRYING.
Hint.
LAUGHING!................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Several, but Ohio has the best rule. Any straight case 35 to 50 cal. Michigan and Indiana wrote some half assed cartridge length rule in it too. Thats why the 450 Bushmaster caught on. And Iowa just changed their regulations as well to allow some straight case rifles in shotgun zone Correction: Ohio's rule : Straight-walled cartridge rifles in the following calibers: All straight-walled cartridge calibers from a minimum of .357 to a maximum of .50. Shotguns and straight-walled cartridge rifles can be loaded with no more than three shells in the chamber and magazine combined. (That's why I built my AR-15 in. 450bushmaster. )
An unemployed Jester, is nobody's Fool.
the only real difference between a good tracker and a bad tracker, is observation. all the same data is present for both. The rest, is understanding what you're seeing.
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I got to shoot Winchester's XPR chambered in .350 Legend at Industry Day today. I don't think I have a need for one but it was fun to shoot, felt recoil was minimal and I was impressed by how smoothly the rounds chambered and extracted. Function was flawless so well done to Winchester on that regardless of whether or not the cartridge becomes popular.
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I suppose that with the dearth of good affordable lever guns, it makes some sense for those who have a need or use for that level of performance and aren't allergic to ARs. At least if it fails there's plenty of brass from Starline. Hopefully those who don't handload have learned to stock up so they won't be on here pissing and moaning about being abandoned by Winchester if it disappears.
I looked a bit yesterday, but didn't find any specs, even on the Winchester Ammunition site.
What fresh Hell is this?
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Who gives a flying gnat's ass what it may or may not be chambered in at some point.
They didn't introduce it as such.
Stick's right. You really are showing your a$$ on this thread.
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It seems to me this cartridge is destined for an AR. They are using weak pressure specs, obviously, in deference to the AR platform. That case, at 65k PSI, will deliver better performance than that. They're sticking to 223 Win pressures. It's going in a factory AR.
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They revealed their factory loads:
145 gr USA FMJ, 2350 fps, 1778 ft lbs, BC approx 0.182
150 gr Deer Season XP, 2325 fps, 1800 ft lbs, BC approx 0.222
160 gr Power Max Bonded, 2225 fps, 1759 ft lbs, BC approx 0.202
180 gr Super X, 2100 fps, 1762 ft lbs, BC approx 0.220
265 gr Super Suppressed, 1060 fps, 661 ft lbs, BC approx 0.326 That sounds pretty close. That's what Moleman was saying for 180s out of a 16" barrel. No, it's no speedster in a World of bottlenecks. But it's the best you can do in a straight wall .35" & above and still have low recoil. I think the recoil chart somebody put up says it all.
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It seems to me this cartridge is destined for an AR. They are using weak pressure specs, obviously, in deference to the AR platform. That case, at 65k PSI, will deliver better performance than that. They're sticking to 223 Win pressures. It's going in a factory AR. KchuntShoot, Your "revelation",comes as a "surprise",only to you. Hint. Congratulations?!? Wow +P+! Bless your heart. Laughing!................
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So can I get a remington 7600 in .223 rebored to this?
-Jake
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https://youtu.be/NflWmz4w3iA.355 bullet (9mm) Will it be legal in Ohio?? Michigan is min. .35 cal with a min 1.16” and max 1.8” case length.
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Winchester website is showing it as .357. in the video he definitely stated .355 which would NOT be Ohio legal currently. If .357, good to go ![[Linked Image]](https://i.ibb.co/vxhyCB8/Screenshot-20190122-210031.png) -Jake
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