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Single digit ES,2650fps and averaging in the low to mid .4's. Not shabby for a new spout,laying moly down.
The 'pin slop is absofhuqkinglutely HORRIBLE,on this particular receiver. Might poke 'er in the Mail tomorrow and just gun an already bushed one instead.
1000yds on the reticle,in this morning's atmosphere and slippin' transonic at the 1225yd line. Prolly not shabby,for 24grs of powder. 5 Mils of wind,gets it to a mile,on the nose.
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I went to the range today to test a 70 gr RDF load in my Tikka 1-8” Superlite. ![[Linked Image]](https://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w84/pharmseller/C7E2F4E1-2CB1-47B1-8F20-55B50398A2D2_zpsr6yesqur.jpeg) That’s five shots into .75”, I might try up or down .015” or so. I need to chrono the load, too. The BC is .416 (reportedly) so if I’m anywhere near 2900 fps I might have a decent far shooter. P
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But will those RDFs stabilize at 400+ yards and keep that level of accuracy even with that 8 twist?
My limited experience with the RDFs says "no". Try them out though. I may be suprised.
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RDF's are Dog Schit in every spout I've tried 'em in and a 75 Hornie HPBT never disappoints or zooks.
In my 8" Tikka POS,I shoot 75 ELD's at 2900fps+ ala Lever' in SALAMI.
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But will those RDFs stabilize at 400+ yards and keep that level of accuracy even with that 8 twist?
My limited experience with the RDFs says "no". Try them out though. I may be suprised. Help me understand your point. 70 grain in a 1-8” is right about smack in the middle of perfect for a 1-8”. P
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RDF's are pieces of fhuqking schit.
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Ha ha.. You knew it was going to happen. As for you not liking the 223 rem, I used to be that way when I was trying to weigh out every charge for the small little bastid (no I'm not talking about stick). Had to go to the store and buy a damn funnel that would work with the little bastid, etc. I got fed up with it and then decided to just drop powder charges from my uni-flo and damn if that didn't make the whole process about 100 times faster. Now I like the little 223. It's very accurate, and doesn't have any recoil. Its great for really small critters and even deer sized game, with the right bullets. After recently getting into the AR scene, I like the .223 rem even more. I have a good load I worked up for one of my favorite AR's that also shoots lights out in my bolt action, so that's one more reason to like the 223rem. So to answer your question in the Op:
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I was the same way with the .223 and the .22-250. Gave up on the funnel and went to a direct drop from my Uni-Flo, ball powder. MUCH faster and any difference in accuracy was undetectable. The Ruger MKII .223 I have prints touching groups with 40g bullets and the .22-250 has printed a 4-shot .5" group at 200. No recoil and now I don't mind loading them. Great fun and cheap to shoot. I like them a lot.
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But will those RDFs stabilize at 400+ yards and keep that level of accuracy even with that 8 twist?
My limited experience with the RDFs says "no". Try them out though. I may be suprised. Help me understand your point. 70 grain in a 1-8” is right about smack in the middle of perfect for a 1-8”. P That may very well be. What I am saying is that when I was trying the 70 grain RDFs out of a 1/8, they would group just fine at 100 yards like many other bullets. Stretch the range out to 4-500 hundred yards and the RDF's groups would open up considerably where other bullets wouldn't. The 62 TSX, old 75 AMAX and even the dreaded 69 Sierra would stay under MOA but the RDFs wouldn't. I presume that means they destabilized out at that distance, where the other bullets were not. Maybe I had a bad lot or was doing something wrong. Maybe the RDFs just need more speed than the others. I dunno. If I was only shooting to 100 or so yards, they they'd be just fine I guess but I get bored doing that.
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But will those RDFs stabilize at 400+ yards and keep that level of accuracy even with that 8 twist?
My limited experience with the RDFs says "no". Try them out though. I may be suprised. Help me understand your point. 70 grain in a 1-8” is right about smack in the middle of perfect for a 1-8”. P That may very well be. What I am saying is that when I was trying the 70 grain RDFs out of a 1/8, they would group just fine at 100 yards like many other bullets. Stretch the range out to 4-500 hundred yards and the RDF's groups would open up considerably where other bullets wouldn't. The 62 TSX, old 75 AMAX and even the dreaded 69 Sierra would stay under MOA but the RDFs wouldn't. I presume that means they destabilized out at that distance, where the other bullets were not. Maybe I had a bad lot or was doing something wrong. Maybe the RDFs just need more speed than the others. I dunno. If I was only shooting to 100 or so yards, they they'd be just fine I guess but I get bored doing that. Bullets get more stable as they travel downrange, out to trans-sonic range at least, not less stable.
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Pharm, did you play with seating depth to get that or is it just 2.25" OAL?
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RDF's suck,start to finish.
'Tis enlightening,to whirl more than one boolit,through more than one rifle.......................(grin)
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But will those RDFs stabilize at 400+ yards and keep that level of accuracy even with that 8 twist?
My limited experience with the RDFs says "no". Try them out though. I may be suprised. Help me understand your point. 70 grain in a 1-8” is right about smack in the middle of perfect for a 1-8”. P That may very well be. What I am saying is that when I was trying the 70 grain RDFs out of a 1/8, they would group just fine at 100 yards like many other bullets. Stretch the range out to 4-500 hundred yards and the RDF's groups would open up considerably where other bullets wouldn't. The 62 TSX, old 75 AMAX and even the dreaded 69 Sierra would stay under MOA but the RDFs wouldn't. I presume that means they destabilized out at that distance, where the other bullets were not. Maybe I had a bad lot or was doing something wrong. Maybe the RDFs just need more speed than the others. I dunno. If I was only shooting to 100 or so yards, they they'd be just fine I guess but I get bored doing that. Bullets get more stable as they travel downrange, out to trans-sonic range at least, not less stable. Gotcha. I didn't know that. For whatever reason, the RDFs I played with really opened up at a few hundred yards. If stabilization as they slowed down wasn't the problem, do you have a guess as to what was? I am assuming they were still transsonic at 400 yards, but that's just speculation on my part.
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I've shot 'em in over a dozen High Zoot rifles and they sucked start to finish. The farther you go,the more they suck and it ain't RPM.
Hint...................
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Oooooopsie!................ ![[Linked Image]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/JXsHBk.jpg)
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Pharm, did you play with seating depth to get that or is it just 2.25" OAL? I played with seating depth. The 1.922” is from the ogive. P
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How far off the lands do you think that is?
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Tybone,
It's a fhuqking hoot,that you can't even afford your own bullet to measure. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Bless your heart for TRYING!
Laughing!............
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How far off the lands do you think that is? No clue, sorry. Do you have a T3 also? P
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No, I don't.
If I had one, I'd use my Hornady gauge on it to see how it's throated.
I tried them at 2.25" OAL in my last Service barrel. It didn't shoot very well, but then I tossed that barrel at less than 1,200 rounds so it was pretty much The Suck anyway.
I just jammed them in a Krieger and that shot pretty good, but I want to shoot them from a mag.
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Gloating, demeaning, and disrespectful. Who cares if he knows his sh*t?
Hint- conceit is not an attribute. Fug Stik doesn't shoot anything but prone with a bipod or a rest. He doesn't know what he doesn't know. He couldn't win a club match except maybe if it was belly flop benchrest. Funniest comment I've seen in quite a while. You do realize club matches aren't hunting? And, if you've been paying attention a lot of the country where Stick hunts evidenced by his pictures aren't exactly prone or bipod country. I'm thinking most of the guys on this forum use a bipod or rest every chance they get... But of course, you club match guys are "special".... LOL Bob I think that people that shoot in matches do better than the average person. A lot of people who shoot in matches might shoot 2 to 4 thousand rounds every year. And I am talking centerfire, not rimfire. Shoot more than once or twice a week. Dry fire every day when they don't shoot. A lot of times a person who only shoots 3 rounds a year to see if their rifle is still sighted in can't shoot as well as a person shooting in matches.
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