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Originally Posted by jorgeI
Gents, thanks very much for all the advice. I was not doubting TRH's comments, merely acknowledging the issue. I'll go ahead and run the remaining rounds through it. So far, it even fed those 185grain "Flying Ashtrays" with no issues. As to the magazine, it takes a six rounder, but it will accept and feed with a standard 7 rounder, although it stick out underneath. On the spring, I usually run heavier springs on mine, I get them from Wilson Combat. I suppose the make them for these as well. In all honesty, I'll not shoot it that much, just enough to satisfy me it will feed reliably, then just shoot it a few times/year along with all my other handguns.


i have always been fond of the flying ashtray, but thought they were all the speer 200grain. I found about ten boxes of the 100ct bullets per box a few years ago in a gun store, and bought them all.
I was always impressed with what they did with power pistol on water filled milk jugs. Although i have heard they don't penetrate all that well.
oh well, i still like them.


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I’ve got an 80’s colt officers model and never experienced a problem with it even with JHPs.



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Originally Posted by RoninPhx
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Gents, thanks very much for all the advice. I was not doubting TRH's comments, merely acknowledging the issue. I'll go ahead and run the remaining rounds through it. So far, it even fed those 185grain "Flying Ashtrays" with no issues. As to the magazine, it takes a six rounder, but it will accept and feed with a standard 7 rounder, although it stick out underneath. On the spring, I usually run heavier springs on mine, I get them from Wilson Combat. I suppose the make them for these as well. In all honesty, I'll not shoot it that much, just enough to satisfy me it will feed reliably, then just shoot it a few times/year along with all my other handguns.


i have always been fond of the flying ashtray, but thought they were all the speer 200grain. I found about ten boxes of the 100ct bullets per box a few years ago in a gun store, and bought them all.
I was always impressed with what they did with power pistol on water filled milk jugs. Although i have heard they don't penetrate all that well.
oh well, i still like them.


The "Flying Ashtray" was a 200 gr. Speer loading. Those were well before the Gold Dot development.


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Good for you, Jorge!
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Originally Posted by MOGC


The comment about the Gold Cup made me chuckle. I had rough experiences with two different Gold Cups in the late 80's early 90's period. One had that five finger collet bushing. That damn thing broke in a match and tied the gun up like you cannot believe. The other had problematic sights. The rear sight roll pins either walked out occasionally or broke. The front sight took leave in a match and disappeared. Once I got that worked out I realized the "upgraded" guns weren't anymore reliable and probably not much more accurate than a good Government Model. I ditched the Gold Cups.

The reliability quote was only in reference to feeding hollow points and other sharp-profiled bullets. Hollow points in 45 ACP were not even that common in those days and SWC's were more the profiles that wouldn't feed in the lower-priced Colt 1911's.

Surprisingly, Norinco IMO forced Colt to make their 1911's feed reliably because they came out with their "model of the 1911" which would, at less than $300 when Colt's were probably approaching $500. Colt subsequently came out with the defunct model 1991A1's in all three normal sizes. I never owned one of them that wouldn't feed anything. They then quietly upgraded their regular Government, Commander and Officer's Models and called them "Enhanced". As I said, these guns were much better than their predecessors. jwp makes the comment that his apparently '80s model Officer's would feed anything-I don't doubt it. You would come up with individual guns that did, but a lot of them didn't.

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Originally Posted by RoninPhx
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Gents, thanks very much for all the advice. I was not doubting TRH's comments, merely acknowledging the issue. I'll go ahead and run the remaining rounds through it. So far, it even fed those 185grain "Flying Ashtrays" with no issues. As to the magazine, it takes a six rounder, but it will accept and feed with a standard 7 rounder, although it stick out underneath. On the spring, I usually run heavier springs on mine, I get them from Wilson Combat. I suppose the make them for these as well. In all honesty, I'll not shoot it that much, just enough to satisfy me it will feed reliably, then just shoot it a few times/year along with all my other handguns.


i have always been fond of the flying ashtray, but thought they were all the speer 200grain. I found about ten boxes of the 100ct bullets per box a few years ago in a gun store, and bought them all.
I was always impressed with what they did with power pistol on water filled milk jugs. Although i have heard they don't penetrate all that well.
oh well, i still like them.

If it will feed the flying ashtray, it will feed anything. I had a stockpile I used to test for reliability.

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Originally Posted by jorgeI
As to the magazine, it takes a six rounder, but it will accept and feed with a standard 7 rounder, although it stick out underneath. On the spring, I usually run heavier springs on mine, I get them from Wilson Combat.


Good that it feed the FA's well.

As to the mags & springs, Tripp Research is definitely a better product than Wilson & I've used them all. In particular, the followers are better & the Tripp mags provide true controlled round feed (Wilson does not) & the follower also has a metal insert for the slide stop to catch on. The Wilson is all plastic............having said that, I've not had one fail, but any gun that I carry, has a Tripp magazine or at least a Tripp follower & spring.

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McCormic makes a compact version which holds 7 rounds which gives the Officer's model a decent capacity. I use one in my 3.3" compact .45 and there has never been an issue with feeding. I only shoot 230 grain jacketed hollow points in it, so I can't comment on anything lighter, but the close to ball profile is 100% in mine.


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Now that we've discussed the weapon, what do you guys suggest for a holster? I currently have an EP Saddlery Summer Cruiser IWB, but not a fan of IWBs.


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
Now that we've discussed the weapon, what do you guys suggest for a holster? I currently have an EP Saddlery Summer Cruiser IWB, but not a fan of IWBs.
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Originally Posted by jorgeI
Now that we've discussed the weapon, what do you guys suggest for a holster? I currently have an EP Saddlery Summer Cruiser IWB, but not a fan of IWBs.
I've got IWB and OWB's but I generally just Mexican carry. Were I you, I'd just get another EPS in whatever OWB holster they've got. We've got Constitutional Carry though, so printing doesn't matter.

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Any of those look good, I'd prefer one of the first two, black if it will mostly be semi-formal wear, russet if casual.

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I actually HATE ordering anything. My track record with ordering is not good. That means a limited brand selection of which DeSantis and Galco have been the ones I've had the best of luck with. Most name brands look about the same. For over-the-counter, I DON'T like Bianchi.

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not a fan of IWBs.


I'm IWB exclusively except with a few rare exceptions, but the Milt Sparks 55BN works when needed.

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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
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Now that we've discussed the weapon, what do you guys suggest for a holster? I currently have an EP Saddlery Summer Cruiser IWB, but not a fan of IWBs.
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Originally Posted by jorgeI
Now that we've discussed the weapon, what do you guys suggest for a holster? I currently have an EP Saddlery Summer Cruiser IWB, but not a fan of IWBs.
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Sure wish he'd laid off the dope and booze; he wrote some good songs in his rather short life.


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The Flying Ashtray and similar bullet designs sucked - the ogive is too far back and caused feeding trouble. Much of the credit given to pistol manufacturers for adapting pistols is undeserved. Bullet manufacturers put the ogive back where it was supposed to be, but kept the ammo marketing names.

Colt didn't made any significant changes to enhance reliability. What mostly changed are the magazines, beginning with the Gold Cup wadcutter magazines and then the hybrid magazines introduced about the same time as the series 80. Jorge's pistol being a '93 will be fine.


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