Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Handguns Now That .40 S&W Has Lost Favor, What's The Fire's Opion On 9m vs .45 ACP For Daily Carry?

9x19 and 40 S&W ( 357 Sig and 45GAP also) are much more suitable than 45 ACP in the smallish platforms used for CCW.

nuthin' wrong with 40's...........

for me any how.......

I’m sold on compact pistols for self defense. The LC9s leaves little to be desired for my purposes

You might wanna read it again.

What .357 Sig do you carry?

Didn’t the fbi find that 9mm penetrated glass and clothes better than a .45?

Glock 31, but maybe I read the wrong writeup. Not doubting your word, but a link or specific quotes would help.

I believe the gist of the "report" is that impact velocity and bullet energy are unimportant.

if you looked at that youtube video by paul herrel it kind of answers the question on a lot of those points, such as response time, etc. Still goes to the heavier slug which would mean .45acp

The copy I have is in a box somewhere but I'm sure the PDF exists on the internets.

There's really no arguing that the 9mm makes the most sense for departments and agencies of any significant size.

As far as individual carry it's pretty much a moot point. Because we're talking about individuals.

I use to be but I shoot the bigger ones so much better it gives good confidence to carry one.

Where does the 380 Auto fit in with its newfound power and ability that has made the headlines of the shooting world as we know it?

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As a civilian, I am quite happy with 9mm. Would be happy with .45, .40, .357S or 10mm too. YMMV.

That's one comparison using similar capacity.

But if you use size, it's G19 at 15+1 vs G30 at 10+1.

The G19 comes in 2 1/2 ounces lighter also.

This is a better comparison.


Or

G36 vs G19

Now your 45 is 1/4" shorter, thicker.
2-6 ounce lighter (depending on ammo)
But only has 6+1 capacity.


And that's the age old argument. Ammo vs "Horsepower".
If modern ammo blurs the difference in effectiveness, is there a question?

Double the amount of similar ammo in a similar size and weight gun.
Sound too good to be true.

Own an old G19.
Have considered the 30 and 36. But every time I pick them up,
It's obvious what I would give up. What would you gain?
Well, in theory....

So long as you are satisfied with it's shortcomings, which in my mind are range & accuracy (or ability to hit) at much more than a few yards.

The larger guns are not nearly so handicapped & the difference in carrying are minor; to get a significant advantage in carrying, you need a gen-u-ine pocket pistol.

Those are only an absolute last resort for me in very special (attire) circumstances........just not a big mouse gun fan.

YMMV

MM

GD it all depends on the bore hole that you like. Some like low bore holes as they are short in stature. On the other hand a 380 would give someone a serious ouchy within a few percent of the ouchy you would get with a 45 acp.

All you he-men can pound your chest all you want. But if you think you can shoot a .40 to the same level you can a 9 you have no idea what you’re talking about.

I can, of course I need a larger handgun in the .40 S&W to do so and sometimes that's just fine.

40. lol

In a smaller, lighter gun, 9mm all the way. IMO based on ammo, there is little difference between the 9, the 40 and the 45 in the best loadings. I tend to agree with those who have more trigger-time than me that the least-recoiling version given the BEST ammo, in the lighter, more concealable platforms, is best.

In a full-size service pistol with the absolute best ammo, IMO the 40 gets the nod, 45 to answer the original question, since EDC could encompass open carry or casual concealment where absolute concealment is not an issue.

These days, I carry a SIG P938 9mm if absolute concealment is mandated, a S&W M&Pc 9mm if it can be concealed as readily or a full-size M&P in 40 if there is no concealment issue or it's winter with heavy clothing.

Some great insights from folks in the know. I don't know much, but my present job does require me to qualify (M-9) and I've run the course with two Glocks (21 & 31) and I find no appreciable loss of scoring with them as compared to the M-9. All firings conducted with ball, 115, 230 and 125gr respectively.