Anybody else see this? Four Little Birds and two special ops Blackhawks landed in the middle of the street in LA and a bunch of soldiers ran out from buildings and got in and they took off. Yeah, yeah, training ops with a press release afterwards, but damn. Those Blackhawks didn’t have a lot of clearance.
Also, apparently that was the Wells Fargo building they were running out of and the next morning Wells Fargo had a system outage across the whole country where even ATMs were mostly shut down because of a “fire”.
If it was training, then it seems unnecessarily risky. A drunken jackass could have thrown a bottle off of a balcony and caused a major accident that would have killed lots of people and half a dozen generals’ careers. That is the kind of thing that could have been done at a mock-up out in the middle of a dry lake somewhere.
No, exactly the opposite. You can’t do anything in LA without a million people seeing you. And if you try to limit who sees you, you let the cat out of the bag. The best way to hide something is in plain sight.
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill.
No, exactly the opposite. You can’t do anything in LA without a million people seeing you. And if you try to limit who sees you, you let the cat out of the bag. The best way to hide something is in plain sight.
Ok.
Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
You realize, you've just sent jaguartx off the deep end, don't you?
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
You realize, you've just sent jaguartx off the deep end, don't you?
What’s the deep end? Do we even know anymore? We just had half a dozen people at the top of one of our government agencies gin up a soft coup against the president of the United States with the full cooperation and support of the opposition political party, the press, and at least one intelligence agency. Does it get any deeper than that?
I’ve always been a little conspiratorially minded, but things I would have thought unthinkable ten years ago are not only happening, but happening right out in the open.
What is "the deep end" you ask? Well, when you comment on the wrinkle on Bush 41's casket as some sort of "sign" having to do with some secret organization, or an across the continent missile shoo tdown on TWA 800 and of course, Dealy Plaza, you'll get the gist... All kidding aside, yes I did find that event in LA a bit risky from an ORM perspective and yes, it gave me much pause..
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
It was 3 nights running. I think last night or the night before they did this in Long Beach. I couldn't come up in my mind where the military would have to pull off this kind of op but here and I really am no conspiracy theorists. Practice like you play sounds a little creepy in this case.
Fight fire, save lives, laugh in the face of danger.
HVT's are typically taken down in some urban environment. Gotta train as you fight.
160th SOAR does training like that in all major CONUS cities. Been going on for over 20 years.
Good to know. But as one who spent thirty years also doing high risk training, I still find it on the edge to train where civilians can get hurt. Then again, we can't just go out and build skyscrapers and other building just for this. SCHITHOT flying for sure..
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A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
If that was training, someone up the chain took a huge, huge risk. Don't they have places setup for that type of training? And what was with the refueling probe? I didn't think any Helo's were outfitted with refueling probes except the 160th SOAR group and then only on MH-6 Helo's.
If that was training, someone up the chain took a huge, huge risk. Don't they have places setup for that type of training? And what was with the refueling probe? I didn't think any Helo's were outfitted with refueling probes except the 160th SOAR group and then only on MH-6 Helo's.
No. Navy/USMC CH-53s have them.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
HVT's are typically taken down in some urban environment. Gotta train as you fight.
160th SOAR does training like that in all major CONUS cities. Been going on for over 20 years.
Good to know. But as one who spent thirty years also doing high risk training, I still find it on the edge to train where civilians can get hurt. Then again, we can't just go out and build skyscrapers and other building just for this. SCHITHOT flying for sure..
Oh brother.
You fugkin' people (aviators not Cubans) wait until the swells are over the bow to start practicing landing a plane on a big ass boat.
It's all relative.
Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
If that was training, someone up the chain took a huge, huge risk. Don't they have places setup for that type of training? And what was with the refueling probe? I didn't think any Helo's were outfitted with refueling probes except the 160th SOAR group and then only on MH-6 Helo's.
Did you read Hawk Driver's post?
Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house