|
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 369
Campfire Member
|
OP
Campfire Member
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 369 |
Wanting to play with some new bullets, looking for something that can do everything from deer to elk, so controlled expansion is preferred. Shots will be 400 yards and under so expansion velocities shouldn’t be much concern. Looking at 150gr TTSX/TSX, 165gr Accubonds, 165gr Partitions, maybe 165gr Speer Grand Slam or Federal TBT. Used the TBT in my 270 this past season with success, but its currently out of stock with no backorder on midway.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 3,447
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 3,447 |
I have zero experience with elk; however, I can't image a Nosler 165 grain Partition not being up to the task.
It may be an old design, but the Partition is likely the epitome of what a good hunting bullet truly is.
Liberalism is a cancer Support Christian Family values
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,348
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,348 |
The Partition has always been my choice. They've never given me a reason to look elsewhere. Worth every penny.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,519
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,519 |
JJ, Nice cartridge choice! Any of the bullets you mentioned will do what you want. But, if you want to go a bit less expensive, try the Hornady Interlock in the same weight bullet. You’ll save some money, be able to shoot more, and critters up through Elk hate it.
If we live long enough, we all have regrets. But the ones that nag at us the most are the ones in which we know we had a choice.
Doug
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,621
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,621 |
Public landowner...
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 9,921 Likes: 1
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 9,921 Likes: 1 |
never seen a Partition not work right
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 8,859 Likes: 1
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 8,859 Likes: 1 |
165 Accubond would work well for your stated application. I just finished load development for my Kimber Montana 308 and settled on H4895 under a 165 Accubond for a do all.
Adversity doesn't build character, it reveals it.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 931
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 931 |
56gr of R17 pushes a 165 Accubond in my 30-06.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 8,229 Likes: 14
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 8,229 Likes: 14 |
150 or 165 Interlocks or Ballistic tips are my favorites for the conditions you describe.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 369
Campfire Member
|
OP
Campfire Member
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 369 |
JJ, Nice cartridge choice! Any of the bullets you mentioned will do what you want. But, if you want to go a bit less expensive, try the Hornady Interlock in the same weight bullet. You’ll save some money, be able to shoot more, and critters up through Elk hate it. I do love the Interlocks that’s currently what I’m loading for this same 308. The 150s with a flat base or boat tail will both shoot under 1 MOA out of this particular Model 7. I would shoot an elk with them if it came to it, but I’d prefer something a little bit sturdier. I have a box of 150 Accubonds but haven’t gotten to shoot any yet. Just wanting to try something new, I’ve never messed with different weights in that gun. Anyone have thoughts on 150 vs 165s out of a 308?
Last edited by JJWise; 02/13/19.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 573
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 573 |
"If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert , in five years there'd be a shortage of sand."
~ Milton Friedman~
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,226
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,226 |
150-165 gr bonded (or A-frame type) bullet. You pick.
Murphy was a grunt.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 369
Campfire Member
|
OP
Campfire Member
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 369 |
Realistically I know that the Barnes and Nosler bullets in 150 or 165 will preform admirably and under hunting conditions their performance will be nearly identical. I do wonder about the velocities though. According to MidwayUSA, the 165 Accubond and 150 TTSX are the same length, which means that in theory they can hold the same amount of powder allowing the TTSX to be driven faster. But will it still be slower than a lead 150gr?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,519
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,519 |
If I understand your question correctly it is can you get the same velocity from a TTSX bullet as you get with cup & core lead? In comparable weights the answer is yes. And the TTSX needs slightly less powder to get there. If it were me, I’d shoot the 150 gr. Bullet (your choice which) for all game up to Elk, and shoot 162/165 gr. Bullets (your choice) for Elk unless using a mono like the TTSX. Remember, monos seem to like speed for best performance. With a mono you can go with the lighter bullets.
Last edited by lastround; 02/14/19.
If we live long enough, we all have regrets. But the ones that nag at us the most are the ones in which we know we had a choice.
Doug
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 20,955 Likes: 3
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 20,955 Likes: 3 |
By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 58,679 Likes: 47
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 58,679 Likes: 47 |
The 155 Skinner by 1000%.
Hint............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 4,293
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 4,293 |
Hey Big Stink, can you hit an egg at 300 yard standing on your stubby little legs like this little girl? Go ahead, put up or shut up. You keep talking about how good you are. Pick any of your water soaked rusty rifles and have at and put your camera on timelapse and let us see how good you really are. Can out shoot a girl? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUtasDhjpI4
I'd rather die in a BAD gunfight than a GOOD nursing home.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,004
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,004 |
400 and under, take your pick. 155 scenars are super accurate out of my 30 year old tang banger Ruger and kill elk, albeit a sample of one for me.
How do you know a Trump hater? They'll tell you.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,748
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,748 |
Only bullet I load in my 308 now is the 155 Scenar. Though I do have some 130 TTSXs in the drawer tempting me.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 58,679 Likes: 47
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 58,679 Likes: 47 |
Skinners are the most...for the least.
Hint.............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
|
|
|
|
565 members (10gaugemag, 222ND, 257Bob, 160user, 21, 257 roberts, 47 invisible),
2,627
guests, and
1,271
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,194,368
Posts18,527,345
Members74,031
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|