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Do-It-All 308 bullet #13559098 02/13/19 Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 369 Eastern NC J JJWise OP Campfire Member OP JJWise Campfire Member J Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 369 Eastern NC Wanting to play with some new bullets, looking for something that can do everything from deer to elk, so controlled expansion is preferred. Shots will be 400 yards and under so expansion velocities shouldn’t be much concern. Looking at 150gr TTSX/TSX, 165gr Accubonds, 165gr Partitions, maybe 165gr Speer Grand Slam or Federal TBT. Used the TBT in my 270 this past season with success, but its currently out of stock with no backorder on midway.

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13559130 02/13/19 Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,429 Florida D Dixie_Rebel Campfire Tracker Dixie_Rebel Campfire Tracker D Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,429 Florida I have zero experience with elk; however, I can't image a Nosler 165 grain Partition not being up to the task. It may be an old design, but the Partition is likely the epitome of what a good hunting bullet truly is. Liberalism is a cancer Support Christian Family values

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13559385 02/13/19 Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,348 The swamp winchester70 Campfire Regular winchester70 Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,348 The swamp The Partition has always been my choice. They've never given me a reason to look elsewhere. Worth every penny. Take kids shooting and hunting. Join the NRA and GOA. https://gunowners.org/donate/donations/join/?src=32018 https://membership.nra.org/Join/Annuals

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13559418 02/13/19 Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,518 Western Kentucky lastround Campfire Tracker lastround Campfire Tracker Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,518 Western Kentucky JJ, Nice cartridge choice! Any of the bullets you mentioned will do what you want. But, if you want to go a bit less expensive, try the Hornady Interlock in the same weight bullet. You’ll save some money, be able to shoot more, and critters up through Elk hate it. If we live long enough, we all have regrets. But the ones that nag at us the most are the ones in which we know we had a choice. Doug

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13559514 02/13/19 Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,621 Wyoming C Cinch Campfire Regular Cinch Campfire Regular C Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,621 Wyoming 155 Lapua Scenar... Public landowner...

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13559562 02/13/19 Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 9,919 SE, Iowa B blanket Campfire Outfitter blanket Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 9,919 SE, Iowa never seen a Partition not work right

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13559595 02/13/19 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,841 Smoky Mountains, TN bwinters Campfire Outfitter bwinters Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,841 Smoky Mountains, TN 165 Accubond would work well for your stated application. I just finished load development for my Kimber Montana 308 and settled on H4895 under a 165 Accubond for a do all. Adversity doesn't build character, it reveals it.

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13559651 02/13/19 Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 931 NorthIdontknow M Mac284338 Campfire Regular Mac284338 Campfire Regular M Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 931 NorthIdontknow 56gr of R17 pushes a 165 Accubond in my 30-06.

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13559808 02/13/19 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,169 T TheKid Campfire Outfitter TheKid Campfire Outfitter T Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,169 150 or 165 Interlocks or Ballistic tips are my favorites for the conditions you describe.

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet lastround #13559962 02/13/19 Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 369 Eastern NC J JJWise OP Campfire Member OP JJWise Campfire Member J Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 369 Eastern NC Originally Posted by lastround JJ, Nice cartridge choice! Any of the bullets you mentioned will do what you want. But, if you want to go a bit less expensive, try the Hornady Interlock in the same weight bullet. You’ll save some money, be able to shoot more, and critters up through Elk hate it. I do love the Interlocks that’s currently what I’m loading for this same 308. The 150s with a flat base or boat tail will both shoot under 1 MOA out of this particular Model 7. I would shoot an elk with them if it came to it, but I’d prefer something a little bit sturdier. I have a box of 150 Accubonds but haven’t gotten to shoot any yet. Just wanting to try something new, I’ve never messed with different weights in that gun. Anyone have thoughts on 150 vs 165s out of a 308? Last edited by JJWise; 02/13/19.

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13560043 02/13/19 Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 567 Mountains of Western NC B Brown_Bass_Hunter Campfire Regular Brown_Bass_Hunter Campfire Regular B Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 567 Mountains of Western NC hard to beat a partition "If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert , in five years there'd be a shortage of sand." ~ Milton Friedman~

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13560091 02/13/19 Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,226 fremont Campfire Regular fremont Campfire Regular Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,226 150-165 gr bonded (or A-frame type) bullet. You pick. Murphy was a grunt.

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13560150 02/13/19 Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 369 Eastern NC J JJWise OP Campfire Member OP JJWise Campfire Member J Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 369 Eastern NC Realistically I know that the Barnes and Nosler bullets in 150 or 165 will preform admirably and under hunting conditions their performance will be nearly identical. I do wonder about the velocities though. According to MidwayUSA, the 165 Accubond and 150 TTSX are the same length, which means that in theory they can hold the same amount of powder allowing the TTSX to be driven faster. But will it still be slower than a lead 150gr?

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13560240 02/13/19 Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,518 Western Kentucky lastround Campfire Tracker lastround Campfire Tracker Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,518 Western Kentucky If I understand your question correctly it is can you get the same velocity from a TTSX bullet as you get with cup & core lead? In comparable weights the answer is yes. And the TTSX needs slightly less powder to get there. If it were me, I’d shoot the 150 gr. Bullet (your choice which) for all game up to Elk, and shoot 162/165 gr. Bullets (your choice) for Elk unless using a mono like the TTSX. Remember, monos seem to like speed for best performance. With a mono you can go with the lighter bullets. Last edited by lastround; 02/14/19. If we live long enough, we all have regrets. But the ones that nag at us the most are the ones in which we know we had a choice. Doug

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13567598 02/15/19 Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,892 Deer Park, Tx R Reloder28 Campfire Ranger Reloder28 Campfire Ranger R Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,892 Deer Park, Tx 155 Lapua Scenar "I never thought I'd live to see the day that a U.S. president would raise an army to invade his own country." Robert E. Lee

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13567656 02/15/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,398 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,398 Paradise,Alaska The 155 Skinner by 1000%. Hint............ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13567658 02/15/19 Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 4,293 Bothell, Washington R Remington6MM Campfire Tracker Remington6MM Campfire Tracker R Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 4,293 Bothell, Washington Hey Big Stink, can you hit an egg at 300 yard standing on your stubby little legs like this little girl? Go ahead, put up or shut up. You keep talking about how good you are. Pick any of your water soaked rusty rifles and have at and put your camera on timelapse and let us see how good you really are. Can out shoot a girl? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUtasDhjpI4 I'd rather die in a BAD gunfight than a GOOD nursing home.

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13567683 02/15/19 Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,004 Peoria, AZ P peeshooter Campfire Regular peeshooter Campfire Regular P Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,004 Peoria, AZ 400 and under, take your pick. 155 scenars are super accurate out of my 30 year old tang banger Ruger and kill elk, albeit a sample of one for me. How do you know a Trump hater? They'll tell you.

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13567727 02/15/19 Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 8,748 P prm Campfire Outfitter prm Campfire Outfitter P Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 8,748 Only bullet I load in my 308 now is the 155 Scenar. Though I do have some 130 TTSXs in the drawer tempting me.

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13567764 02/15/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,398 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,398 Paradise,Alaska Skinners are the most...for the least. Hint............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13567767 02/15/19 Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 4,293 Bothell, Washington R Remington6MM Campfire Tracker Remington6MM Campfire Tracker R Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 4,293 Bothell, Washington STINK, Can you outshoot a girl? yes or no? I'd rather die in a BAD gunfight than a GOOD nursing home.

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13567773 02/15/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,398 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,398 Paradise,Alaska You poor poor(literally) Clueless Fhuqk...bless your heart for TRYING. Hint. Laughing!........... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13567779 02/15/19 Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 4,293 Bothell, Washington R Remington6MM Campfire Tracker Remington6MM Campfire Tracker R Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 4,293 Bothell, Washington I'm gett'n to ya ain't I? (literally) Clueless Fhuqk...bless your heart for TRYING. Hint. Laughing!........... I'd rather die in a BAD gunfight than a GOOD nursing home.

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet prm #13568108 02/16/19 Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,892 Deer Park, Tx R Reloder28 Campfire Ranger Reloder28 Campfire Ranger R Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,892 Deer Park, Tx Originally Posted by prm Only bullet I load in my 308 now is the 155 Scenar. What more could you ask for? Like BobinNH always said, “I bought a lifetime supply of them.” "I never thought I'd live to see the day that a U.S. president would raise an army to invade his own country." Robert E. Lee

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13568126 02/16/19 Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,113 Southern New Mexico E elkhunternm Campfire Oracle elkhunternm Campfire Oracle E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,113 Southern New Mexico 165 Nosler Partition or a Swift A-Frame Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard Ken

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13568184 02/16/19 Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 1,326 R RedAstrachan Campfire Regular RedAstrachan Campfire Regular R Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 1,326 Have taken a couple of moose with the 165 PT, it has never disappointed.

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13568356 02/16/19 Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 10,953 Washington D dye7barrel Campfire Outfitter dye7barrel Campfire Outfitter D Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 10,953 Washington Tag

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13568459 02/16/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,398 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,398 Paradise,Alaska Oooopsie! Hint............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13570334 02/16/19 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 10,915 Lubbock, Texas H Huntr Campfire Outfitter Huntr Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 10,915 Lubbock, Texas I have killed 5 of my last 7 elk with the 155gr Scenar.... The other 2 elk were killed with the 139gr Scenar from my 260.

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13570338 02/16/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,398 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,398 Paradise,Alaska Rock SOLID bets,both. Hint.............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13570357 02/16/19 Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 4,293 Bothell, Washington R Remington6MM Campfire Tracker Remington6MM Campfire Tracker R Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 4,293 Bothell, Washington HINT. Facial tic That's so funny I'd rather die in a BAD gunfight than a GOOD nursing home.

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13570373 02/16/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,398 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,398 Paradise,Alaska Oooooopsie! Hint............... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13588834 02/21/19 Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 5,459 Eastern Shore, Va L longshot3 Campfire Tracker longshot3 Campfire Tracker L Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 5,459 Eastern Shore, Va 165 Accubond

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13589834 02/21/19 Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 604 NE ND B Beaudry Campfire Regular Beaudry Campfire Regular B Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 604 NE ND So what 155 scenar are people shooting? I see that there are a couple different ones. Thanks

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet Beaudry #13590092 02/21/19 Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,621 Wyoming C Cinch Campfire Regular Cinch Campfire Regular C Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,621 Wyoming Originally Posted by Beaudry So what 155 scenar are people shooting? I see that there are a couple different ones. Thanks 155gr hollow point boat tail is what I shoot... https://www.powdervalleyinc.com/product/lapua-308-30-155-hpbt-scenar/ Public landowner...

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet TheKid #13634701 03/07/19 Joined: Mar 2019 Posts: 27 Canada, BC Shoot2hunt Campfire Greenhorn Shoot2hunt Campfire Greenhorn Joined: Mar 2019 Posts: 27 Canada, BC Originally Posted by TheKid 150 or 165 Interlocks or Ballistic tips are my favorites for the conditions you describe. I will second that 165 Interlock is my do it all bullet Last edited by Shoot2hunt; 03/07/19. Reason: spelling mistake

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13635459 03/07/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,917 Winchester, WY USA M memtb Campfire Outfitter memtb Campfire Outfitter M Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,917 Winchester, WY USA Assuming we’re talking a .308 Win. with elk on the menu.....150 TTSX pushed hard. Can be pushed fast enough to be a good 400 yard performer, with a bullet that “will” retain nearly 100% of it’s original weight for superb penetrating capabilities. Those penetrating capabilities can be a huge benefit on large game, with a less than ideal shot angles! memtb You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel “I’d like to be a good rifleman…..but, I prefer to be a good hunter”! memtb 2024

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Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13635680 03/08/19 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,169 T TheKid Campfire Outfitter TheKid Campfire Outfitter T Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,169 Lapua Scenar

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13637820 03/08/19 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 151,201 Texas hanco Campfire Savant hanco Campfire Savant Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 151,201 Texas 150 Partition

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet memtb #13639502 03/09/19 Joined: Mar 2019 Posts: 27 Canada, BC Shoot2hunt Campfire Greenhorn Shoot2hunt Campfire Greenhorn Joined: Mar 2019 Posts: 27 Canada, BC Originally Posted by memtb Assuming we’re talking a .308 Win. with elk on the menu.....150 TTSX pushed hard. Can be pushed fast enough to be a good 400 yard performer, with a bullet that “will” retain nearly 100% of it’s original weight for superb penetrating capabilities. Those penetrating capabilities can be a huge benefit on large game, with a less than ideal shot angles! memtb Agreed, it.s good bullet just not as available locally and obviously more money. Every time I tinker with premium bullets by the time I develop a load the box of bullets is gone and it gets costly to practice with them too.

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet Shoot2hunt #13640024 03/09/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,917 Winchester, WY USA M memtb Campfire Outfitter memtb Campfire Outfitter M Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,917 Winchester, WY USA Originally Posted by Shoot2hunt Originally Posted by memtb Assuming we’re talking a .308 Win. with elk on the menu.....150 TTSX pushed hard. Can be pushed fast enough to be a good 400 yard performer, with a bullet that “will” retain nearly 100% of it’s original weight for superb penetrating capabilities. Those penetrating capabilities can be a huge benefit on large game, with a less than ideal shot angles! memtb Agreed, it.s good bullet just not as available locally and obviously more money. Every time I tinker with premium bullets by the time I develop a load the box of bullets is gone and it gets costly to practice with them too. Shoot2hunt, While it likely would not replicate your hunting Bullets, use a much cheaper bullet for practice. At least when you’re shooting, you are perfecting your “shooting mechanics”! We even shoot 22 rifles ( Ruger 77/22), for practice. They somewhat simulate our hunting rifles, in size and weight.....again “mechanics”! Just a thought! memtb You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel “I’d like to be a good rifleman…..but, I prefer to be a good hunter”! memtb 2024

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet JJWise #13643909 03/10/19 Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 10,779 Good Life Esox357 Campfire Outfitter Esox357 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 10,779 Good Life 165 hornady btsp. Kills everything.

Re: Do-It-All 308 bullet Cinch #13644667 03/10/19 Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,892 Deer Park, Tx R Reloder28 Campfire Ranger Reloder28 Campfire Ranger R Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,892 Deer Park, Tx Originally Posted by Cinch 155 Lapua Scenar... 155 Lapua Scenar "I never thought I'd live to see the day that a U.S. president would raise an army to invade his own country." Robert E. Lee