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IMO...no such thing as "ultimate" rifle round. Too many variables in hunting and personal likes/dislikes in target/competitive shooting for there to be a single cartridge that is the ultimate. Ditto that. My daughters love my .257 Roberts and #1 told her hubby that when I'm gone there may be a fight between them to get their hands on it. They were looking at used rifles for donors that could be rebarreled to .257 Roberts. SIL texted me and asked what I thought about the idea and I told him to forget it - get a 6.5 CM instead. Much better selection of factory ammo and component bullets, better brass availability and does everything the Roberts can do and then some. But... IMHO the "ultimate rifle round" should be a "do most everything" round. The 6.5 CM isn't the one I would choose if that is the criteria. For my needs a 7mm RM or .30-06 would be my choice - and the 7mm RM was for 20+ years.
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A good .30-06 is a 99% solution.
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'Hunter,
Take a stab at bullets...mainly because it will be funnier than fhuqk.
Hint.................
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Or chamber a medium or long action in .260 and have the best of both worlds.
What goes up must come down, what goes around comes around, there's no free lunch. Trump's comin' back, get over it!
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Or chamber a medium or long action in .260 and have the best of both worlds. Bullet? Speed? Describe the particulars of your blueprint...you know,the Imaginary one you are Pretending about. Hint...............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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It's all about...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!
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It's all about...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!! It's ALL about connecting dots...RPM,COAL and Throat Geometry. That same has always stumped Clueless Fhuqks,remains a hilarious constant! Hint................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Or chamber a medium or long action in .260 and have the best of both worlds. Bullet? Speed? Describe the particulars of your blueprint...you know,the Imaginary one you are Pretending about. Hint............... Show us something you invented and built, not something you bought, destroyed and threw into a swamp and took a picture of once you wrecked it... Hint, rolling in the floor laughing...
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Or chamber a medium or long action in .260 and have the best of both worlds. Bullet? Speed? Describe the particulars of your blueprint...you know,the Imaginary one you are Pretending about. Hint............... Show us something you invented and built, not something you bought, destroyed and threw into a swamp and took a picture of once you wrecked it... Hint, rolling in the floor laughing... shrapnel, Ain't it a fhuqking hoot,that Stupidity isn't an "act" for you...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? How many times a day,do you think about me? Not on a Special Day,just on the average? HINT. Bless your heart. Laughing!................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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shrapnel,
Ain't it a hoot,that Stupidity isn't an "act" for me...you "lucky" guy. Hint. Congratulations?!?
How many times a day,do you think about me? Not nearly as much as I think about you. Thanks again for being such a great example, not laughing at you, just laughing at my ridiculous infatuation with dead fish and rusty guns!!
HINT.
Bless your heart.
Laughing! at myself of course ................
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shrapnel,
Pardon my Inventing Lexicon,Prose,Phraseology and Punctuation...that you are powerless in the refrain to mimic,due your long standing Wanton Man Lust Crush.
Ain't it a fhuqking hoot,that Stupidity isn't an "act" for you...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
How many times a day,do you think about me? Not on a Special Day,just on the average?
HINT.
Bless your heart.
Laughing!................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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shrapnel,
How many times a day,do you think about me? Not on a Special Day,just on the average?
HINT.
Bless your heart.
Laughing!................
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Maybe John Snow went too the Academy of higher learning with Lee J Hoots. Where the 270 was found unacceptable yet the latest wonder gun is an automatic world beater?
" Cheapest velocity in the world comes from a long barrel and I sure do like them. MB "
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I've already beat this horse, to death... It is a wonderful round, but.. It will do nothing that a 6.5X57 won't do other than fit in a short action. I was looking for a new longer range rifle as I gave my daughter the 6.5X57. Spent a ton of time reading and looking at ballistics etc Found a Sako 85 NIB in 270 Winchester for under $900. Had everything for reloading already it was not a hard choice. I don't think I will regret the choice.
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Its not the cartridge...its the people
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Reload? Yeah, but I don’t HAVE to for the cm. I can spend that time loading precision stuff for all those other calibers that don’t have it for $20-30/box on every local store shelf.....like 308s, 243s, 270s, 260s, 6.5xWhatever, 7-08.........or shooting, cheap, accurate cm stuff. My 308s kick more and require more loading attention, to be as accurate and kill no better than the cm.
$, convenience, performance, and recoil? Tall order to pass up the CM, no matter if you think it’s ‘trendy’ or practical.
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I think throwing out all our rifles and getting 6.5's should be part of the Green Dream. Kind of like rebuilding every structure in the USA to be energy efficient, think of the powder that would be saved.
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The 120 year old 6.5x55 at modern pressures pounds the 6.5 Creedmore into the ground like a tent peg. For a hunting rifle the 6.5 Creedmore is an inexplicable choice.
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the 6.5 is a cute, little stylish newcomer that although very efficient and excellent for those who love to "ring steel" at long ranges and great for deer, etc, I'd hardly call it an "elk cartridge", much less "ideal".
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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