Home Forums Hunting & Shooting AR and Tactical Rifles 223/556 loads using LeverEvolution Powder

I've seen a few mentions of this in passing but it doesn't ever seem to be discussed at length.
Is this a thing? Is it a good thing?

Unless I've missed it Hodgdon doesn't list LVR for any of its 223 loads.

Just from memory LVR is 1 slot slower than CFE223 on the powder burn rate chart.

Anyone want to share?

I was gearing up to try it then 2520 was in stock, so i grabbed that instead and it turns out 25.2 grains under a 77SMK does nice things.

It works. I've used it a some

I know others who use it more than a little bit.

Have a look at the MOA challange......robertham used Lever to get under a MOA with 10 shots....but just barely......grin

RP cases, CCI 41 primers, 29.5 grs of Lever under a 55 gr NBT hits 3179 fps in my 16" barreled guns.

25.5 grs of Lever hit 2671 fps in 92 degree heat with a 77 gr TMK no pressure signs. 26 grs made 2726 fps but was a little warm. 16" barrels again.

I've been running 26.0 grains with 75 HPBT (Hornady's) RP Brass, and 205's (no, haven't pierced one yet) for around 2750 on an 80 degree day.

I keep swapping stuff on my AR, so it's tough to say how great it shoots, but I did shoot two, five shot groups at 400 yards a while back. One group was 4-1/4", the other was 3-3/4". Good enough for me.

I'll likely switch over to 400's on the next batch, as I bought a boatload on them before the election.

I noticed Hogdon now has data on their site for LVR with the Valkyrie.

Never heard of it.................(grin)

Since ‘Lever and CFE223 are the same powder (‘Lever doesn’t have the magic copper eraser) , use the CFE223 data.

Laughing!...............

Has this info been verified?

Yes...I have both on the shelf.................(grin)

Well jesus H christ thanks for telling us.. LOL.. I need to call you and pick you ear on some load data/info. Are you up on the slope or back home?

Verified false. They are not the same powder.

Ummmm...no fhuqking schit?!?

LAUGHING!................

How did you verify false?

It's the internet and you can't put anything false on the internet.

I had heard the same reports years ago and ran into high pressure with CFE223 long before I met the velocity Lever was giving me. That's all I needed to see.

So you're saying use 'Lever and stay away from CFE223?

Don't believe me. Call Hodgdons.

Looking at the 30-30 Win. reloading data on the Hodgdon site you can see that the min/max loads, velocity, and pressure all vary between the two powders. This would indicate that they are not the same. Close, but not the same.

Just having the decoppering agent in one but not the other would make them different.

Unless the decoppering agent is massless, volumeless and chemically inert.