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I know the 200gr Noslers and XTP's at that speed dig plenty deep, after reading you guys, and what Phil had to do, I'd certainly entertain hard cast.

Spring dayhike on an old burn with the G22/357Sig riding in a Blackhawk Serpa.

Pack is the Merlin from Seek Outside. It can be a stand alone daypack, and piggy-backs onto the larger packs. Only weighs 16 ounces, 1400 cu-in.

Nice, and to a flatlander fuggin green horn like me, that looks like Grizz country.

Not grizzly bears in recent times, but sometimes they show up where they are not known to be.

This is in the Belt Mountains. Black bears, mountain lions, and wolves are around.

10-4, I elk hunted The Thorofare back in '06, your picture reminds me of that country.

The griz threat is real down around Yellowstone. Seems every year someone gets chewed on in MT or WY vicinity of the Park.

A couple good reasons why they make a G40 and why they make Underwood Ammo to feed it.

It sure does seem like every year.

Bears can be unpredictable.

Even with an unwavering faith in my god, I believe I would carry a firearm.

MM.
how do you like that pack? How’s the durability? Comfort? I’m rough on gear and I haven’t had a chance to actually handle any Seek Outside packs. I was looking at Seek Outside and HPG day packs but haven’t pulled the trigger yet.

Thanks

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I got 923 fps using Buffalo Bore 255+P hard cast in a totally stock Glock 30SF. I would think that you could get more than that out of a Glock 21. I don't see how that could leave less of a dent than a 230 going 1000, without having to mess with recoil springs (other than a possible earlier replacement schedule). You may want to try a box for functioning and reliability.

The 255’s are bad azz.

That would be my approach as well, but I already have a 30SF that feeds anything including MBCs 215 grain 45 Express with a .355 meplat.

I like it a lot. My bigger pack is the Unaweep 4800. Between the two there is a lot of versatility.

It is a very comfortable pack. I've got some old back problems and I'm not interested in carrying a heavy load, like roughly over 75 lbs. The pack itself will carry 100+ if that's what you need to do.

Durability. Lets face it, if you take a pack the same volume as an ILBE, but cut weight from 8 lbs down to 3 lbs, there is a sacrifice in durability. If you tear up military grade packs, a Seek Outside is probably not going to be your cup of tea. That said, I find the Seek Outside plenty durable for 'normal' civilian use. I don't think I've read any accounts of the SO packs failing in the field. But I wouldn't repeatedly throw a fully loaded SO pack off the back of a 5-ton onto the tarmac, and not expect it to sustain some damage.

I bought my Unaweep 4800 with some hesitation, due to durability concerns, but I have come to have full faith in the pack.


Here's a pic of the Merlin buckled onto the empty Unaweep 4800. The Merlin can hold typical day hunt stuff, leaving the main bag to haul out meat.

Mine runs fine at +P speeds, with the factory spring. I've ran some 'Super' loads with the standard spring and they run too, but I think a heavier spring is best for sustained 'Super' loads.

I just bought 500 of those, looking at the meplat, hardness, and the velocity a Rowland could sling them. I just wonder how the penetration is vs a 255 LBT LFN.

It's a nice looking bullet, and I'm thinking a .45 ACP +P load could be fairly effective, too.

RE: 215 .45 Express bullet.

I just loaded up some dummies, looks like I'll have feed issues with an OAL over 1.170" in my Ruger .45 Super, but at that length they feed like they're lubed with snake snot. Given the profile of the bullet, that's typical. Can't have too much shoulder out of the case.

QL, with the baselines I have on the components, says 1100 fps is doable at mild (for Super) pressure, 21.8 Kpsi. Basically a .45 ACP +p.

That would also work in my 1911s that are set up for .45 ACP.

Have you ever shot a 329? I have and after 2 cylinders it drew blood on the web of my hand through a thin glove. I f ing hate that gun. Another guy I shot it with also had the same chewed up web on his hand

I've wanted to try a 329 going back several years. To that end, I've tried to trade into one several times but just never could get her done. I don't doubt that it has some savage recoil. Part of the problem could be handloaders though. It sure seems like, judging from the fire, lots of guys like to load what I'd term, really heavy bullet weights in big bores anymore and this includes the 44 Mag. IMO anything over about 265 grains fits what I'm saying. I don't think you should have to download the thing into Special territory to make it shootable though.

I owned a model 69 for awhile and found it didn't recoil nearly as much as one would expect. I sold it to a cop and have often wondered what his experience was with it. I had nothing against the gun but was just thinning my 44 Mag. herd. I still have two 44 Mag's, both being light guns-relatively, a Mountain Gun and a Ruger Blackhawk (not Super Blackhawk).