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Originally Posted by Alabama
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They will pull that schidt whether Trump declared an emergency or not.

If you don't know that, then you have not been paying attention.



Full attention. The next 2 to 6 yrs is going to define our country for longer than most of us will be alive.


You think this country will outlive us?


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Not the same. National Emergency declared will not allow them to violate the Constitution. They could do it, but it would be overturned.Building a wall to protect the country and it's citizenry is not against the constitution.


It is the same. There is no national emergency right now on the border. If there were the wall would have been started 2 years ago. The move Trump has made is unconstitutional and will be ruled so by the Supreme Court. I wouldn't be surprised to see a 9-0 vote. The point is, that if Trump is allowed to violate the constitution for a fake emergency, then any president in the future will be able to do the same. And for any reason. We all had better hope that this is found unconstitutional.

The purpose of the National Emergency is to allow a president to make a decision in regards to a real emergency where funds are needed before congress can vote on it. It is used for situations where money is needed TODAY for something. Usually a small amount is specified and congress will meet and appropriate more funds ASAP to fully fund the situation. It was never intended as an end run to pay for something planned years down the road. Congress has already voted on this and said no. No way Trump wins this battle. And if you love this country you should be praying he doesn't.

There will never be a wall built as long as the Dems hold the house and Trump knows it. This is all grandstanding by both sides. Even if he is able to get the money from somewhere he doesn't own the land. The only way the land can be acquired is through eminent domain. The congress is the only government agency with the power to acquire the land and that ain't happening.


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We don't know what the president knows.

I'm pretty sure if a large force of 30K or more hit the southern border, at the weakest points of entry, we would be in dire straits.




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Not the same. National Emergency declared will not allow them to violate the Constitution. They could do it, but it would be overturned.Building a wall to protect the country and it's citizenry is not against the constitution.


It is the same. There is no national emergency right now on the border. If there were the wall would have been started 2 years ago. The move Trump has made is unconstitutional and will be ruled so by the Supreme Court. I wouldn't be surprised to see a 9-0 vote. The point is, that if Trump is allowed to violate the constitution for a fake emergency, then any president in the future will be able to do the same. And for any reason. We all had better hope that this is found unconstitutional.

The purpose of the National Emergency is to allow a president to make a decision in regards to a real emergency where funds are needed before congress can vote on it. It is used for situations where money is needed TODAY for something. Usually a small amount is specified and congress will meet and appropriate more funds ASAP to fully fund the situation. It was never intended as an end run to pay for something planned years down the road. Congress has already voted on this and said no. No way Trump wins this battle. And if you love this country you should be praying he doesn't.

There will never be a wall built as long as the Dems hold the house and Trump knows it. This is all grandstanding by both sides. Even if he is able to get the money from somewhere he doesn't own the land. The only way the land can be acquired is through eminent domain. The congress is the only government agency with the power to acquire the land and that ain't happening.

Hey JMR40 --> shove your stupidity up your stupid ass bittchboy you love running your democrat mouth against Trump - since when does a dumbass like you decide what's an emergency ? There's proven middle-easterners caught at the border - you think they're coming here to pick fruit -chitforbrains ?? This has been an emergency for 30 years - 20 30 40 million POS here sucking off our resources and mailing a cent they can get their hands on back to meheeco - committing crimes - gangs - our tax dollars imprisoning tens of thousands of foreign nationals - I I could go on and on but a dumbass like you will blather out the same BS tomorrow .... JMRw/40 IQ ....ESAD


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The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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Originally Posted by jaguartx
You think this country will outlive us?


Nope, It’s already dying. Most of what made it America is long gone. Of course, I may die tomorrow. But the real America is gone already, and barring a miracle, it ain’t coming back. Enjoy today, for we are not promised tomorrow, and the left is fully invested in making sure tomorrow is theirs, not ours. They should be careful what they wish for. It don’t take a lot of looking to see what their utopias always turn out to be.

Taking motivated men’s dignity, and rubbing their nose in it, is a bad idea. Somebody oughta tell them, but it won’t be me that warns them. They have done sowed the wind, and the whirlwind belongs to them. Let it rip.

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[quote=Alabama]National emergency from next Dem President.

Declare a halt to all ammunition for X amount of time until the fictitious "National gun violence" emergency is resolved.

There are ways to get around the 2nd. The 2nd states nothing about availability of ammunition or lead or copper or the ingredients in powder.

They will be clever

If the US ever votes one of these liberal people to highest office in land it will not be pretty for the gun owners.

Best thing we can rely on is to cast smart votes and not give the left any further talking points to heighten their agenda.

They are chomping at the bit to make us defenseless and I don't GAF what they preach.[/quote

Over-the-Hillary stated that she would go after ammunition and reloading components 2 years ago when she was running her losing campaign.

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Guns aren't techie enough for the libs. When they see this they'll fall in love.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyisfzUT7Ys&feature=youtu.be


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Bring it.

Sooner the better.
Immediately.... Let's GO!


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Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Originally Posted by jaguartx
You think this country will outlive us?


Nope, It’s already dying. Most of what made it America is long gone. Of course, I may die tomorrow. But the real America is gone already, and barring a miracle, it ain’t coming back. Enjoy today, for we are not promised tomorrow, and the left is fully invested in making sure tomorrow is theirs, not ours. They should be careful what they wish for. It don’t take a lot of looking to see what their utopias always turn out to be.

Taking motivated men’s dignity, and rubbing their nose in it, is a bad idea. Somebody oughta tell them, but it won’t be me that warns them. They have done sowed the wind, and the whirlwind belongs to them. Let it rip.

OldGreyWolf , you're exactly right , too late for talk- the left has worked a great plan for years while the right/conservatives have played no offense and only a miniscule amout of defense .
As I often say ain't nobody gonna do nothing ..... except stand around and watch the country circle the drain .


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Posted by Bristoe
The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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Originally Posted by navlav8r
madthe threat that the Dembulbs have been making the last few days about what might happen if Trump declares a national emergency to fund “the wall” has shown us what they’re going to do if/when they get the White House back.

If Trump sets precedent by declaring a national emergency over “the wall”, they ask why couldn’t the next Dembulb president use the same tactic and declare a national emergency about guns? They’re Dems say that they’re suggesting that in an attempt to dissuade Trump from declaring an emergency BUT.....

What they’re NOT saying is that IT DOESN’T MATTER whether Trump declares a national emergency over “the wall” or not, the next Dembulb president WILL DO IT after the first shooting on their watch

There’s no article in the bill of rights guaranteeing the right of Mestisos to invade our southern border. That’s the difference. There is, however, a Constitutional obligation on the part of the executive branch to defend our border from invasion.

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