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260Remguy said above, (it's easier to copy & paste THAN to quote and delete a lot.)

" EDIT: I will admit to being something of a Luddite when it comes to gunpowder, still shooting a lot of H4895. "

I OTOH have more interest in the newer powders. I have several pounds of Surplus 4831 plus the other 'Old Faithfuls', BUT I have acquired a few #s of H 4350 and Rl 26 for experimenting this Spring.

When it comes to firearms I have run the gamut in the years past. I also have NO problem with L As and actually prefer them to S As.
With a 6mm Rem, 270 W, 7mm RM, & 30-06..... there is nothing I can't get done. We have NO prairie dogs or groundhogs etc. so I have no need for a dedicated varmint rifle. ( I'm not including 22 rf and the 22 RFM )

I appreciate the advancements in primers and powders to improve the cartridges I use.

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Actually, today's H4895 is a different powder than the one Hodgdon sold after WWII. It's one of what Hodgdon calls the "Extreme" line powders made in Australia, which appeared in the 1990's. (They go by different designations Down Under.)


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
The .25 Creedmoor will probably appear after today's incredibly high-level demand for the .25 Souper, .250 Ackley Improved and .257 Roberts dies down.



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Originally Posted by Reloder28
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
The .25 Creedmoor will probably appear after today's incredibly high-level demand for the .25 Souper, .250 Ackley Improved and .257 Roberts dies down.



In the words of Fred Flintstone, “Droll, very droll.”



The 25 CM will just become the new standard and people won’t have to look towards the .25 Souper, 250AI or the .257 Roberts. If a guy already owns one of the three, the 25 CM won’t matter.

Same as the 6.6 CM will eventually push factory chambered .260 Remington Rifles off the shelves and eventually , very limited production and over time all but the dust bin.


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Originally Posted by SMACK
Originally Posted by Reloder28
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
The .25 Creedmoor will probably appear after today's incredibly high-level demand for the .25 Souper, .250 Ackley Improved and .257 Roberts dies down.



In the words of Fred Flintstone, “Droll, very droll.”



The 25 CM will just become the new standard and people won’t have to look towards the .25 Souper, 250AI or the .257 Roberts. If a guy already owns one of the three, the 25 CM won’t matter.

Same as the 6.6 CM will eventually push factory chambered .260 Remington Rifles off the shelves and eventually , very limited production and over time all but the dust bin.


I think that the 6.5 CM will be to the 260 REM what the 270 is to the 280. Two very similar, but different, cartridges that fit into the same market niche.

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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
I think that the 6.5 CM will be to the 260 REM what the 270 is to the 280. Two very similar, but different, cartridges....


Thank God for choices. I raise my glass for the 280.


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Originally Posted by Reloder28
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
I think that the 6.5 CM will be to the 260 REM what the 270 is to the 280. Two very similar, but different, cartridges....


Thank God for choices. I raise my glass for the 280.


Here, Here ! Or is that Hear, Hear !

In any event, I echo your sentiments. Long live the 260 , 6.5x55, and all the various CMs


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
The .25 Creedmoor will probably appear after today's incredibly high-level demand for the .25 Souper, .250 Ackley Improved and .257 Roberts dies down.


I must have missed this the first time around. Well played, JB, welllll played. laugh


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I just spoke with a gentleman in Canada. He makes custom bullets( Chinchanga Bullets ). Today he is starting a a run of .25 Cal 140gr bullets. He shoots them in a 8 twist. I ordered some for my 7 twist .257 PRC project.


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Get that think screwed together, will ya..wont to here all about it.

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Originally Posted by PByrne
For me the lapua brass with a small primer pocket, like the 6.5x47 lapua, allows you to run higher pressures if you are so inclined. The small pp offers more resistance to case head expansion than domestic brass in the above mentioned cartridges. IMO, the lapua brass also uses a better alloy which allows higher pressure before you encounter pressure signs like hard bolt lift, brass flow into the ejector pin hole and excessive case head expansion..

The only benefit to all this is higher velocities, if you wish...

I also have chambered rifles in 6 creed and in 6.5/47 lapua as well as that case necked down to 6mm..
All fine rounds, as are the rounds mentioned earlier in this thread.

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I have the reamer and built the rifle.. it is on a predator action, jewel, Bartlein, Mcmillin... It shoots extremely well.

The lure for me was Lapua brass and a few bullets that work for my intended use..

Butch Lambert here on the fire knows me well..


While the 25 Creedmoor may be an exceedingly fine cartridge, is it really any more useful for anything a person is likely to shoot with a medium case capacity .257" bore rifle than the 25 Souper, 250AI, 257 Roberts, 257AI, or 25 WSSM?

Different? Sure.

Better? Yet to be seen.


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1)I have a 25 Souper AI that I built about 12 years ago. Love it!!

2) My brother is in the planning phase of a 25 Creedmore.

3) And I am currently building a 25/06 long range rifle for a customer.

Going to be interesting! I'll post more info as we go


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Got my Black Jack 25 caliber 131 gr. bullets today,bullets look great ! now my next challenge is do i want the new A-R type bolt action space rifle guys are using at the range and i am not into star -wars space ship rifles yet.these new type bolt actions may be more accurate and yes they are winning too.i hunt with a Ruger #1,my bench rifles look nice , i have a few A-R`s but truth be told all A-R`s are ugly ! i gotta think about this for a while ?


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The .257 PRC reamer arrived today.👍

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Originally Posted by pete53
Got my Black Jack 25 caliber 131 gr. bullets today,bullets look great ! now my next challenge is do i want the new A-R type bolt action space rifle guys are using at the range and i am not into star -wars space ship rifles yet.these new type bolt actions may be more accurate and yes they are winning too.i hunt with a Ruger #1,my bench rifles look nice , i have a few A-R`s but truth be told all A-R`s are ugly ! i gotta think about this for a while ?


Post us a picture of them. Thanks for your time. Cheers NC


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Originally Posted by SMACK
The .257 PRC reamer arrived today.👍

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Let us know how it turns out Cheers NC


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Originally Posted by SMACK
The .257 PRC reamer arrived today.👍

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I am anxious to see how it works out for you.

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You`re giving me a bug..

Maybe you would think about renting it out when you`re done??

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A .25 creedmoor? Hey...what about the 250/ 3000, the .257 Robert's and the powerful 25/ 06. Just fast twist them. Nothing special about a Creedmoor.

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Originally Posted by comerade
A .25 creedmoor? Hey...what about the 250/ 3000, the .257 Robert's and the powerful 25/ 06. Just fast twist them. Nothing special about a Creedmoor.


Are there any common production 0.257" component bullets that require a ROT faster than the current standard 1-10" ROT?

I can't recall a 0.257" component bullet that I've shot in the 75 thru 120 grain weight range that didn't work fine in 1-10" barrels that are chambered in 25 WSSM, 250-3000, 257, 257AI, 25-284, and 25-06.

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