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Originally Posted by Sherwood
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This cow elk was shot through the chest organs at a distance of approx 50 feet with the first bullet. Second bullet bullet struck a little further back and tore across the diaphragm and punched a good sized hole through the liver. The animal galloped away as if unhurt but collapsed after a run of about 100 yards. My 357 MAG revolver made meat!

I feel that 357 MAG firearms are strictly a close range hunting tool. If you want more reach, buy a .308 or 300 Savage rifle. Or a 30-06 if you can master the recoil. All of these rifles have downed much game within my extended hunting family.

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A .357 revolver is nowhere near the ballistic equal of a .357 rifle/carbine. The same loads that will propel a 158 gr. bullet roughly 1300 fps out the muzzle of a 6" revolver will do roughly 1800 fps. from a 20" carbine.

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Originally Posted by Sherwood
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This cow elk was shot through the chest organs at a distance of approx 50 feet with the first bullet. Second bullet bullet struck a little further back and tore across the diaphragm and punched a good sized hole through the liver. The animal galloped away as if unhurt but collapsed after a run of about 100 yards. My 357 MAG revolver made meat!

I feel that 357 MAG firearms are strictly a close range hunting tool. If you want more reach, buy a .308 or 300 Savage rifle. Or a 30-06 if you can master the recoil. All of these rifles have downed much game within my extended hunting family.

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Just got an original in 38-40. Would that be a better choice? laugh

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I've heard of the 38-55 and the 32-40, but the 38-40 is new to me. How does it compare to the 38-55?


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Originally Posted by Youper
I've heard of the 38-55 and the 32-40, but the 38-40 is new to me. How does it compare to the 38-55?



Think .40 S&W.


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Originally Posted by Youper
I've heard of the 38-55 and the 32-40, but the 38-40 is new to me. How does it compare to the 38-55?


Seriously? The .38-40 and .44-40 are simply legendary chamberings.

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Bear are cupcakes. If you can't kill a black bear with a .357 Rifle you need to either work on your hunting or your shooting. I've shot several deer with a .357 carbine and haven't been able to catch a bullet yet, and deer are built a lot more sturdy then a black bear.

I'll be using a #46 longbow and wooden arrows this spring, .357 is cheating.

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Originally Posted by 1bigdude
Put the .357 back in the safe and use a decent caliber you owe it to the bear rather than to use something that is "nearly" a deer caliber at best.




this. 357 suck on bear


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Put the .357 back in the safe and use a decent caliber you owe it to the bear rather than to use something that is "nearly" a deer caliber at best.




this. 357 suck on bear

I'll put you both down as votes for the .38-40 then... wink

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Never seen it used; but I have seen the results of 357


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A 357 Mag will punch through the vitals just as effectively as an arrow or countless calibers. Don't bow to the "must be bigger" nonsense. If you own it, shoot it. Look at Grizzly Ammo loads also. The Punch load is impressive. They are machined from brass and will whistle through a black bear or penetrate a skull in a more hairy situation. Good luck!

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Originally Posted by moosemike
Originally Posted by Youper
I've heard of the 38-55 and the 32-40, but the 38-40 is new to me. How does it compare to the 38-55?


Seriously? The .38-40 and .44-40 are simply legendary chamberings.

Sorry. Just a brain fart. You didn't write it, but in my mind you were talking about model 94, and hadn't considered pistol rounds.


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Originally Posted by Youper
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I've heard of the 38-55 and the 32-40, but the 38-40 is new to me. How does it compare to the 38-55?


Seriously? The .38-40 and .44-40 are simply legendary chamberings.

Sorry. Just a brain fart. You didn't write it, but in my mind you were talking about model 94, and hadn't considered pistol rounds.


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I would like to know all the naysayers - have you fired a 357 in a rifle?

Blowing up 2 liter bottles at 150 yds - like any other hi-vel round...and seeing how fast 158s @2050 mv gets there.....and the impact.

A 357 in a RIFLE as others above stated, kills like a 30/30. HOW MANY ANIMALS have 30/30s dumped over the past century? Bear included? How fast are common 30/30 loads clocking? Hmm. Much less bark and recoil......but don't be fooled by it's size.

Tell me how many animals ran off from a 357 rifle? I see...

Folks who don't know...........simply don't know.

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Archery deer season & fall bear season run concurrently here.

Last fall, I was bear hunting with my Remchester 1895 in 30-06 on a Saturday & had an opportunity where I could have arrowed a decent buck !

Sunday, I had the rifle & crossbow in my ground blind, contingencies covered.

Bear came out & I used the crossbow anyway. Ran 25 yards, death moaned & piled up.

They really are not hard to kill.


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Originally Posted by 65BR
I would like to know all the naysayers - have you fired a 357 in a rifle?

Yes, I've owned (and shot) 2 Marlin 1894s, 1 TC Carbine, and a Winchester Highwall which was one of the test platforms when Remington and S&W were developing the .357 magnum cartridge back in the 1920s. (A gun I would buy back if the current owner would give me a decent price on it.)

I think it is only fair to ask you the same question. Have YOU owned, or even merely just fired, a .357 in a rifle?

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Originally Posted by T_O_M
Originally Posted by 65BR
I would like to know all the naysayers - have you fired a 357 in a rifle?

Yes, I've owned (and shot) 2 Marlin 1894s, 1 TC Carbine, and a Winchester Highwall which was one of the test platforms when Remington and S&W were developing the .357 magnum cartridge back in the 1920s. (A gun I would buy back if the current owner would give me a decent price on it.)

I think it is only fair to ask you the same question. Have YOU owned, or even merely just fired, a .357 in a rifle?

Tom


Nope! But I have owned and fired it in Pistol form and know it will humanly kill a bear.


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The only times I hunted Bear with a 357 in the past was with an 8" Dan Wesson.

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I hunted black bear with a .375 H&H.


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