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Originally Posted by JSTUART
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Crazy people do crazy sheit. It will never be understood nor be able to be stopped. All you can do is prepare for the day when a nutcase goes off in your AOR.



And that is about all the explanation we will ever get that comes close to the truth of the matter.


Yep and...


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Most of you wouldn't even know where New Zealand is, or anything about our culture.

We don't hate, and we are shocked and dismayed about what has happened. Stop making assumptions and stop your hating. Its the hating that causes this.



NZS,

I found it interesting just how few terrorist attacks have occurred in New Zealand. Hardly a handful, and not one of them committed by Muslims. I don't see any evidence that would support equating the Muslims in Christs Church with the actions of the most violent practitioners of that faith.


Exactly.

The speed with which people justify these murders and unwillingness to call it what it is is pretty incredible.

The reason Islamofacists’ killing of innocents is horrifying is because it is a dehumanizing act of objective (I say this as a Christian agreeing with an Atheist, AS) evil. The same goes here; we can’t have it both ways.

One can hold to two positions at the same time:

1) a white guy killing innocent Muslims is the same as Islamofactists killing innocent Americans

2) multiculturalism on a national level is a failed experiment and steps need to be taken to peacefully separate peoples of different cultures to avoid this sort of violence becoming the norm

Those two things aren’t mutually exclusive and implying they are furthers the PC narrative of the Left.


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They've drank deep of the Cultural Marxist Kool Aid.


You've got to be joking, right?

No, if you meant to say that you're okay with your race and culture being replaced by the decree of your rulers in government.

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Where was the outrage on the part of our office holders and MSM about this?

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Muzzys having been slaughtering innocent Christians since Biblical times. It’s their MO. It’s their plan to kill ANY non Muslim! Anyone that CANNOT see that is either blind or stupid. So forgive me if I have no sympathy for them. Whatsoever!


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Originally Posted by ol_mike
Sounds like you NZ'ers think you have a special group of muslims - have you seen what's happening in Europe ?
Must be some of that magic soil I've read about - once your muslims stand of NZ real estate they change to great people .
The word NAIVE comes to mind .

I'd like to know the number of muslims in NZ who are working and supporting themselves 100% - bet it's real low since they seem to be very parasitic .


Most non white immigrants here are wealthy Asians so basically, the Muslims haven't got much of a presence and so far they haven't caused any trouble. Sure, they're only in small numbers here so that may be why. Don't know how many of them are on welfare. Personally, I don't know any, have only ever met a few of them and don't think there are any living in my small forestry town. Knowing my fellow countrymen though, I'm sure most of them aren't too enamoured with the multiculturalism idealism.

Most NZ'ers are well aware of the problems large Muslim immigration has caused in other western countries. Contrary to that, there are plenty, my ex wife included, who are very naïve about the Islamic world. She, of course, is a dyed in the wool democrat (called Labour party here) and thinks we should take in even more refugees from the cesspools of the world. I divorced her years ago.

There is a lot of good reading and humorous and intelligent stuff by many on this forum. What is also apparent though, to even a blind man, is the extreme level of paranoia and hate that some posters have. Not just hate for muzzies but hate for just about everything.


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They will start making noise when the numbers are right.


https://blog.godreports.com/2015/09/how-islam-takes-over-countries/

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What area are you in Zeissman?


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
They've drank deep of the Cultural Marxist Kool Aid.


You've got to be joking, right?

No, if you meant to say that you're okay with your race and culture being replaced by the decree of your rulers in government.


I'm 66 years old and I'm dismayed at the direction this country (NZ) is going in. It used to be a wonderful place, still is in many ways but it's definitely sliding down the slope a lot like Oz, and the U.S. are and many other western nations.


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Originally Posted by zeissman
Originally Posted by ol_mike
Sounds like you NZ'ers think you have a special group of muslims - have you seen what's happening in Europe ?
Must be some of that magic soil I've read about - once your muslims stand of NZ real estate they change to great people .
The word NAIVE comes to mind .

I'd like to know the number of muslims in NZ who are working and supporting themselves 100% - bet it's real low since they seem to be very parasitic .


Most non white immigrants here are wealthy Asians so basically, the Muslims haven't got much of a presence and so far they haven't caused any trouble. Sure, they're only in small numbers here so that may be why. Don't know how many of them are on welfare. Personally, I don't know any, have only ever met a few of them and don't think there are any living in my small forestry town. Knowing my fellow countrymen though, I'm sure most of them aren't too enamoured with the multiculturalism idealism.

Most NZ'ers are well aware of the problems large Muslim immigration has caused in other western countries. Contrary to that, there are plenty, my ex wife included, who are very naïve about the Islamic world. She, of course, is a dyed in the wool democrat (called Labour party here) and thinks we should take in even more refugees from the cesspools of the world. I divorced her years ago.

There is a lot of good reading and humorous and intelligent stuff by many on this forum. What is also apparent though, to even a blind man, is the extreme level of paranoia and hate that some posters have. Not just hate for muzzies but hate for just about everything.



Zeissman,

Conservatives and Liberals see the world very differently. This occurs perhaps to some degree at a biological level due to conflicting forces upon our evolutionary psychology. Psychologically, Conservatives are very high in disgust sensitivity, and very closed to new experiences, including those from other cultures. Here's a video from perhaps the leading Moral Psychologist on the subject, Johnathan Haidt.

I highly recommend his book The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion (12 bucks from Amazon)



You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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But the fight is coming in the US and we will not lose.

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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
What area are you in Zeissman?


Central North Island near Lake Taupo, Jim. Went deer hunting yesterday morning and think I'll go fly fishing this afternoon.


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper


Zeissman,

Conservatives and Liberals see the world very differently. This occurs perhaps to some degree at a biological level due to conflicting forces upon our evolutionary psychology. Psychologically, Conservatives are very high in disgust sensitivity, and very closed to new experiences, including those from other cultures. Here's a video from perhaps the leading Moral Psychologist on the subject, Johnathan Haidt.

I highly recommend his book The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion (12 bucks from Amazon)





Great post, thanks.


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They will start making noise when the numbers are right.


https://blog.godreports.com/2015/09/how-islam-takes-over-countries/


This paradigm is not unique to Islam. You can replace "Islam" with any other group and the same applies. Genocides occur with a disportinate percentage of wealth is concentrated with a small minority in a country with a clear majority.

Typically the numbers have to be around and 80% majority wanting the assets of a 10% minority. Regardless of the labels applied the the Majority and Minority groups, the conditions for genocide are ripe.


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Originally Posted by mtnsnake
But the fight is coming in the US and we will not lose.


No. We won't.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Ive never in my life believed the rhetoric that the US was heading for another civil war.

In the past 5 years I've come to believe it is. It will be a combination of civil unrest from the left (sound familiar) and foreign influence. Reminds me of our last civil war though the issues sure have changed a great deal. Talk about a 180!!!


The sad thing for honest freedom loving people is there is no place left to go. We either fight and die here or foreverl be slaves to the liberal socialist @sshole globalists.


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Originally Posted by mtnsnake
They will start making noise when the numbers are right.


https://blog.godreports.com/2015/09/how-islam-takes-over-countries/

This.

And those arranging for the influx of Muslims into our nations are aware of these facts, providing their motivation for doing so. The Muslims are being used as a weapon of destruction against Western Civilization, Christianity, and the White race.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
They will start making noise when the numbers are right.


https://blog.godreports.com/2015/09/how-islam-takes-over-countries/

This.

And those arranging for the influx of Muslims into our nations are aware of these facts, providing their motivation for doing so. The Muslims are being used as a weapon of destruction against Western Civilization, Christianity, and the White race.


Obama said he would side and fight with the Muzzys and he did. Did his damndest to destroy the USA. 😡


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This is the kind of news that you have to look for. The Europeans aren't taking things as passively as many think. It's going to blow open eventually.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35633318

Attacks on Germany's refugee shelters are increasingly common.
Government statistics reveal that last year there were about 1,000 such attacks, five times the number reported in 2014.

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Originally Posted by zeissman
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
What area are you in Zeissman?


Central North Island near Lake Taupo, Jim. Went deer hunting yesterday morning and think I'll go fly fishing this afternoon.



Lots of good fishing.

My late Grandmother in Law was an expert fisherwoman. Even wrote a story about her in the Mackenzie Muster.

Her favorite spot was Lake Opuha.

It was her families land that was flooded when the dam was built, probably why she like the area so much. I spent a week there getting my FIL's jet boat running.

It was old then...but he was proud of it. It had been tuned by Hamilton himself.


I have not been around the North Island much....all my family is South Island folk.

Good luck on the fishing.


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