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How long until the Partition and everything else is canceled?


Bite your tongue! Partitions canceled? Woozy here. grin


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Originally Posted by Magnum61
Now, here's the real question. Lets say these catch on the same or better than Barnes.

How long until the Partition and everything else is canceled?


No plans for this whatsoever!

The partition is indeed a benchmark, a point of reference a legend! wink


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Originally Posted by Brad
Awesome!

Nosler quality and consistency... I'll give them a try!


That's what I was thinking. May be the best of the premiums...

I'm guessing they'll be making Ballistic Tips and Partitions for a long, long time...:)


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I think the lead free movement might be possibly a better idea than most would think. I think there is a definate factor of making people concentrate on their hobby of shooting because there is no room in the pocket book for "throwing lead" anymore.


WTF? With the time and care I put into handloading my ammunition I hardly consider what I do to be throwing lead.

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Originally Posted by Magnum61
I'd have to admit that I am a Barnes TSX fan but that looks like a better design. or better than Barnes.


How is it a better design? It's a solid shank same as the original Barnes and the Lost River Balistics bullet and a solid shank monolithic without groves or driving bands has its share of problems that are well documented....



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I hope Nosler doesnt beta test on the consumer like Barnes did. I also hope the keep the dimensions the same over the years, which Barnes hasnt done.

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Nosler has somewhat of an uphill battle on this one, since it took Barnes a decade to get the copper X design dialed in, and no one to date has made a homogenous gliding metal bullet work out as well as the X.

I think Nosler sees the handwriting on the wall and a need to get a product in the marketplace that is compatible with the rash of "lead free" bullet legislation coming down the pike from the antis.

The antis are a real piece of work... first they cause a decimation of the game herds by introducing wolves, then take away the solution by removing lead from bullets. Sort of a "one-two" poison pill for hunting in the US.

It's Carl Marx's "dialectic materialism" in action...

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Originally Posted by JAC43
I'd like to see them on the factory 2nds list....


Yeah!--But I have a feeling it will be a while, and the discounted price of these (most likely) pricey bullets will be about what Partition 1sts sell for.......

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So what are the ingredients of the gilding metal that Nosler ( I assume) feels won't lead to copper fouling like the X-Bullets did?

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Any answer to my question if the E-TIP reloading data will be in the new Nosler loading manual, and if the E-TIP was the reason for the delay in the manual?

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Hmm....

The barnes patents must have expired, I'm sure this one crosses into dangerous IPR (Intellectual Property Rights). Patents are only good for 17 to 20 years so I guess it's about time. Probably some other older than that covering solids (non lead).

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I wondered the same thing about the Failsafe front end which was as direct a copy as you could get from the X which was released in 1989.

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I may try them in the future, but I've got way to many TSX's to use up 1st.


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The lead free movement is relentless with the greenies such as the Sierra Club, etc.. Not to mention those of similar ilk that are managers and policy makers in USFS, US. Dept. of Interior and the National Parks.
There are attempts to ban lead from upland game shells - even on private property. Just a continuation of the waterfowl ban.
Socialist Minnesotas' DNR has an ongoing effort to have fisherman trade in their lead fishing baits for non-toxic lures.
Its just a matter of time until our Legislature bans lead - period.

Just remember the next bullet that some want is the "F Bullet"!
No, not the four letter word, "F" as in the "FICTICTIOUS BULLET".



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Originally Posted by Spotshooter
Hmm....

The barnes patents must have expired, I'm sure this one crosses into dangerous IPR (Intellectual Property Rights). Patents are only good for 17 to 20 years so I guess it's about time. Probably some other older than that covering solids (non lead).

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Does Barnes have patents on a monolithic expanding bullet? There were South African outfits making and selling expanding monolithics before Barnes.

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Fellers I have no idea if anyone ownes any patents that they'd be getting in trouble for.

BUT given the way things go these days a lawsuit wouldn't be a surprise.

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I look forward to trying these!!

Thanks POP for posting this.

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So can we call these the Envy Bullet??? As they have finaly gave up and joined the best bullets on earth the Barnes TSX..

Tough I may have to try them and Hope they make them in a 140 6.5.

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Is Eremicus in cahoots with Nosler?

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Originally Posted by SamOlson
Is Eremicus in cahoots with Nosler?


Maybe E has the patent laugh

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