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The jury in San Francisco federal court on Wednesday found Bayer liable because its Monsanto unit did not warn plaintiff Edwin Hardeman of the herbicide’s alleged cancer risks.

The German Federal Institute for Risk Assessment toxicology review in 2013 found that "the available data is contradictory and far from being convincing" with regard to correlations between exposure to glyphosate formulations and risk of various cancers, including non-Hodgkin lymphoma (NHL). A meta-analysis published in 2014 identified an increased risk of NHL in workers exposed to glyphosate formulations

They have been poisoning the planet with it for years and then we consume it knowingly and not knowingly. What is not to say that much of the cancer isn't coming from the poisoning of the soil, water, and air by products such as roundup.
Once a person ingests a non-organic substance the brain chemistry begins to change which has far reaching affects. Some of these changes are more pronounced in some than others, but all are affected.

Food is the fuel for our bodies as gasoline is the fuel for our cars. Add ethanol to the gas and the engine performance begins to drop, some more than others. It really shows up in small engines such as lawnmowers, chainsaws and older engines. It is no different for humans.

I once worked for Monsanto, in the quality control lab of a plant where the raw materials for Roundup were produced. We were always told to be carereful, wear property protective equipment, etc around the stuff, but never had any problems that I know of.

Mike Holmes

Agreed. I used the stuff and got a tiny bit on my hand and the tip of my tongue went completely numb for about two hours. My neighbor died last month at 81 and he smoked non-filter cigarettes since he was 16. Point it that this chit is like many things, it affects everyone differently.

Roundup a scourge on our ecosystem....and yes, 90% of lawyers are bottom-feeders that will exploit this situation.

Wow, what a "diverse" reaction this Round-Up discussion has drawn. I would like to add a few comments regarding pesticides in general and Round-Up specifically:

1). Pesticide is the overall term applied to products designed to manage / kill pest populations. Herbicides (such as Round-Up) are PESTICIDES. So are fungicides, rodenticides, insecticides, bactericides, etc.

2). Not all pesticides are cumulative in human tissues / organs.

3). Not all pesticides remain in soil / water after usage. They may be degraded by light, temperature, moisture, time etc.

4). One measure of toxicity is the LD50 value. It represents how much material is needed to kill 50% of the test animals (usually rats, mice and rabbits). The lower the LD50 value, the more toxic the substance is. These values can be either dermal absorption or oral ingestion. The acute oral LD50 for Glyphosate (trade name Round-UP) is approximately 5600 mg / kg body weight on adult rats. By all comparisons, this is relatively non-toxic. For comparison purposes, Aspirin has an LD50 of 200 mg / kg in rats. These values relate to the concentrated product, not diluted field usage concentrations.

5). Water can be lethal if ingested in verge quantifies. It will always be "normal" to find somebody with adverse reactions to something.

6). Utilizing a risk / benefit scenario, pesticides have done a hell of a lot more good than bad.

Guess that is enough "thought" (for this issue) from me.

Once a person ingests a non-organic substance the brain chemistry begins to change which has far reaching affects. Some of these changes are more pronounced in some than others, but all are affected.

You [bleep] idiots think that just because the EPA says it’s ok, it’s ok. Only liberals trust the government.

science crosses the political barrier

You must be a global warming kinda guy

Do you really think Liberals drink the stuff?

I understand your point, especially having farmed myself and grew up in a farming community. Many farmers that I know of now where masks and gloves at times, drive around in sealed cabins that are not leak proof but are far from open air type from my era. Many will not touch the seeds they are planting because of health hazards.
No one can guarantee that the herbacide, pesticide, ect. will only stay on their property and doesn't stay in the crops I might eat. It is very hard on the small young engines among us, (babies), and the older engines, (elderly). Then there's the animals, birds, bee's, fish, and on and on and on.
For those who have not had cancer or a similar disease it is not much of a reality or a worry. For those who have had cancer, it becomes a reality. Having had colon cancer twice, the last time being terminal with a year to live, I am much more aware of herbacides and pesticides than before I contracted it. And lets call them what they really are, poison.

What Horse1 posted is exactly what I'm talking about. He is talking about just one "Hobby Farmer" doing this, can you imagine if you multiplied that by......????????.
I understand the "out of sight, out of mind" concept and used to have that thought philosophy, not any more. Those toxins/poisons don't go away or evaporate into nothing, they build up. Bayer/Monsanto/Payseur could careless what affect it has you, your children, your grandchildren. You are nothing more useless eaters to them. In some cases I read you are food to them and the chemicals you take in

is just more seasoning to them.

I think we should be looking at the big picture here, the future.