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Thanks, Ken! I'm looking forward to getting going on this project. And If I draw an elk tag in a few months? Even better!
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Got mine at Midway also.
That's what I'm hoping for. I kind of figured they were hard to obtain? Guess I can keep an eye out. Wait a minute, I haven't even bought the rifle yet? WTH?? Best get on the ball then! I'm going in this next week and try to talk 'em down on the price a bit? We'll see how it goes. 👍🏻 Tell'em it's an odd ball round, ammo is mega expensive, and remeind them just how long it's been in inventory, sitting there, unsold... Besides, anyone in the know wants a black rifle, not a used Wby... When convinced just how sorry a gun it is, maybe they'll help you load it... DF
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Even if you don't get an elk tag,take it deer hunting.
Or,you can send it to me and I'll try it out on some jackrabbits.
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Even if you don't get an elk tag,take it deer hunting.
Or,you can send it to me and I'll try it out on some jackrabbits. Probably over penetrate. DF
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Just a bit.
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Well, get the brass, dies, bullets, etc. Then, you'll need a rifle. Makes perfect sense... DF It is sadly, a statement of just how far gone l am that your statement makes perfect sense. NOW, you have EARNED your LOONY card! Jerry
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Not yet Jwall,he has to use the 7mm Wby on a itty bitty critter and post pictures on the fire. Then he has earned his LOONEY card.
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Not yet Jwall,he has to use the 7mm Wby on a itty bitty critter and post pictures on the fire. Then he has earned his LOONEY card. IMO -- when you get dies, BRASS, powder, primers, bullets, & scope for a rifle you DON'T have ---> qualifies for the LOONY card. grin edit -- I omitted brass. Jerry
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Looks like I've work to do. 😉
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Got mine at Midway also.
That's what I'm hoping for. I kind of figured they were hard to obtain? Guess I can keep an eye out. Wait a minute, I haven't even bought the rifle yet? WTH?? Best get on the ball then! I'm going in this next week and try to talk 'em down on the price a bit? We'll see how it goes. 👍🏻 Tell'em it's an odd ball round, ammo is mega expensive, and remeind them just how long it's been in inventory, sitting there, unsold... Besides, anyone in the know wants a black rifle, not a used Wby... When convinced just how sorry a gun it is, maybe they'll help you load it... DF DF, Mind If I print this and take it to the gun store with me?
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Lama bob,
I read your posts in this thread with interest. You seem to have a solid take on pressures and load procedure for the 3 - 7mm's in this discussion. Your figures on velocity differences and case design between them seem in line with your testing and beyond my ability to confirm or dispute, I do think you know what you're talking about.
However, in the real world of "joe average" we go by published load data that has been pressure tested by people that do make public their data. This published data shows a real world difference in cartridge velocities as shown by the data Muledeer posted in this thread.
For me and most other reloaders who don't have our own piezo equipment or a laser vibrometer available, published data and a chronograph are the best we have. So for now I guess that the data I use has been tested and accepted for common usage and the postulation you've made is just an opinion, Although interesting - still just your opinion.
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340boy, sure you can use that line of BS, negotiating for your 7 Wby. And, of course, we expect pictures when you get that "sorry ole Wby" home... DF Edited to add, tell them that is a high intensity round, that a used gun like that can have a shot out barrel. Ask if they have a borescope, that you're concerned about how much life that barrel may have... And, for the right price, you'll take it off their hands, as is... Of course, doing them a favor...
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RTFQ. The OP said it was a new Mark V languishing in old stock.
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Tell'em it's an odd ball round, ammo is mega expensive, and remind them just how long it's been in inventory, sitting there, unsold... Besides, anyone in the know wants a black rifle, not a used Wby... When convinced just how sorry a gun it is, maybe they'll help you load it... <-- see 340boy, sure you can use that line of BS, negotiating for your 7 Wby. And, of course, we expect pictures when you get that "sorry ole Wby" home... DF Edited to add, tell them that is a high intensity round, that a used gun like that can have a shot out barrel. Ask if they have a borescope, that you're concerned about how much life that barrel may have... And, for the right price, you'll take it off their hands, as is... Of course, doing them a favor.. D F - your humor, sarcasm & bs are evident. Jerry
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Not yet Jwall,he has to use the 7mm Wby on a itty bitty critter and post pictures on the fire. Then he has earned his LOONEY card. IMO -- when you get dies, BRASS, powder, primers, bullets, & scope for a rifle you DON'T have ---> qualifies for the LOONY card. grin edit -- I omitted brass. Jerry If that's the case,I have a rifle with no bullets but everything else.
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Waiting for pictures...
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....the 7WB loaded with a 150/160 NAB and a scope with an elevation dial strikes me as one of the best choices for sitting on a mountain saddle in the Rockies with 600+ yards of possibility in front of you....... Sho' got that right!!
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IMO -- when you get dies, BRASS, powder, primers, bullets, & scope for a rifle you DON'T have ---> qualifies for the LOONY card. grin
edit -- I omitted brass.
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If that's the case,I have a rifle with no bullets but everything else. you STILL qualify, *** CERTIFIED*** Loony ! Jerry
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