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Before my time, but I've heard stories about the Delco plants, wind generators, and such.

Any thoughts on the topic?

There was no power here until 1953. Some people had generators Dad said.

I know a lady whose father sold those wind chargers back in the 1930's and 40's. They lived in SE Montana. She said they ran the lights and radio at their place. When she was a kid there was no REA power yet in that part of the country. She didn't remember how many batteries they kept charged but said where they lived the wind always blew so it was never a problem.

Here is a link to one of the companies that made them.

http://windcharger.org/Wind_Charger/Wincharger.html

If you go to the Welcome link after you read the above there is more information on the costs involved back in the early days. There are other manufacturers listed as well in the header of the Welcome section.

No generators here, just lanterns and coal oil lamps.

I've surveyed lots of places that didn't have electricity. With people living on them.

Some out in west Texas. Most in NM.

The people living there get pretty innovative.

Surveyed a powerline extension running to a house outside Pecos once, and those were the happiest people I can remember to see me coming. They had lived there several years before they could pay for the service to reach them.

Last time I checked on getting power out to my windmill, it was about $4000 per span (pole).

My mother didn't have any electricity till after the war...they were it the process of wiring up the grid when the war started. That all stopped to conserve copper...I remember as a kid asking grandma how she went that long without power...she said well I never had it before so really nothing changed...being a kid that hadn't dawned on me...

Lot of farms in eastern CO had acetylene lights The carbide/water drip deal was out in a nearby building and as it produced acetylene ,it was piped into the house for gas light.More than a few places blew up.We never had any fireworks,but we played hell with carbide bombs.They would throw us in jail today

Carbide is good fish bait.....so I've been told.

that's not too bad. When we had our new house built 4 years ago it cost us $6000 per pole, and double if we would've gone under ground.

Dad said they had a wind chargers living up on the high plains of TX right after the depression. Said they could either run their radio, or their light bulb. Not both at the same time.

Mom, born 1938 lived without power until she was 16 or 17.
Married my dad at 18, moved to the farm, no electricity for 3 more years.
Poor people, there were no fancy system for anyone I know of around here.
Coal oil, or hurricane lamps. Wood fired cookstoves.

Richer folk had kerosene stoves.


We have property that's 1/2 mile + from the nearest power, more across out ROW.
Boy, I wish we had built a cabin back when REA would run the line for free.
Our road is high clearance 4wd only.
Getting power, a decent road, a well, and sewer would blow $100k or more.
It would be a great place to live, but not remotely feasible.

I dont believe there was anything on my Great grandfather's or my Grandfather's place prior to electricity being run out here.


No evidence of any types of generators and dad never mentioned anything like that.

I lived with my Grandparents when I was in the 2nd grade. We had electricity, one bulb to the room and 2 outlets in the house, but grandma had a butane stove, tank set above ground in the yard. No running water and no bathroom. Bathed in a #3 washtub and had a 1 holer out back. Fireplace for heat.

And probably a much simpler, happier life.

Was a butane stove different than a propane stove?


Everything up here was fuel oil and coal.

Years before they found natural gas.


Propane is pretty recent.


Was propane interchangeable with butane?

Different Yes; interchangeable No. These days it mostly matters for Boy Scouts and other groups limited to bottled gas fuels for safety when traditional white gas would otherwise be better but arguably less safe.



There are partial pressure issues with modern gas appliances too. Buddy heaters have an altitude limit as the carbon monoxide safety will trip for low oxygen at altitude.

My memory from visits to the old home places is mostly oil lamps with wicks and wood stoves. Electricity to the barn first for fire hazard. Batteries to run the radio not so much for lights. People I knew who could do well with the internal oven in a wood stove are all long dead today. Later above ground bulk oil then propane. Notice that propane jetting is not the same as natural gas jetting though most appliances can be converted either way. More recently some very nice shiny and gimballed stuff made for a high dollar sail boat market for off grid and vacation living where it's a choice not necessity.

Jim, I remember when we changed from butane to propane. I must have been in about the 5th or 6th grade and we had to change the jets in the heaters and stove. I was told that they changed because propane was cheaper to produce than butane. Dont know if that was true or not. A stove or heater jetted for butane will burn on propane, but it wont have a good/efficient blue flame. I didn't know about he temp effecting the outside tanks. When I was young, just about all the tanks were above ground. Then they passed a law that all tanks had to be buried. It created quite a fuss when they refused to fill tanks because they were above ground. Then years later, when the underground tanks began to rust and leak, they changed the law again. Now all propane tanks must be above ground. Typical government at work....

Thanks for the info!

My grandparents in west central Kansas had some sort of generator that would power lights. I believe it came on automatically when you turned on a light switch. It was not 110v.
That was rendered obsolete in the early 50s when REA ran power to rural areas.
Prior to that, they had kerosene lamps. Mom (91 years old) tells me of one time a kerosene lamp was knocked over and started a major house fire. She just escaped the fire, but two of your younger sisters sustained fatal burns.
That would have been late 1930s.

Butane was replaced by propane. Butane is heavier than air and will pool in a depression. It settles on the floor and does not dissipate. Propane is lighter than air and will dissipate. Thus, it is less likely to ignite/explode.