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The different styles of 1960 99E are all probably right as rain. Thank you!
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I think there were very, very few 99E’s made in the catalogued 1960 configuration with a schnable forearm. We see 20 of the other style E’s with 96x,xxx serial numbers for every one of these. Like the uncatalogued octagon barreled 99C’s, I think they were using up old parts. The EG and R are also catalogued, but who has ever seen a 1960 stamped one of those? Just there to sell of old inventory, or testing to see popularity? I’d guess to sell old inventory.
The different styles of 1960 99E are all probably right as rain. You guys are the record keepers and have been at this a lot longer than I have but when I owned those David has I looked feverishly for a few years and don't remember seeing even one of the other style 1960 E. I have seen a photo or two you guys have posted tho so they're out there, but 20 to 1 ratio?
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The different styles of 1960 99E are all probably right as rain. Thank you! No kidding! I sold one of those of Davids and eventually took it back because the buyer was convinced it was not original. Then I bought the second one. That darn situation caused the buyer and I both a lot of heartburn. Truth be told, him more than me because I always knew it was factory but it was messed up anyhow. No hard feelings, just part of the learning curve.
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Some of these 'back & forths' on this forum remind me of a Ronald Reagan comment on the democrats...
It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.
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I strongly resemble that statement. We're practically twins.
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You guys are the record keepers and have been at this a lot longer than I have but when I owned those David has I looked feverishly for a few years and don't remember seeing even one of the other style 1960 E. I have seen a photo or two you guys have posted tho so they're out there, but 20 to 1 ratio? Seen 2 recently with the uncheckered E style forearm, one with recoil pad and another priced way high. I don’t even bother to get serial numbers any more. They are very unremarkable looking, very easy to skip past them. Next one I see go by I’ll forward to you.
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Seems like I checked the assembly numbers when I got them and they matched. I'm going to do some scope mounting on other guns and will check the E's for assembly numbers when I go out there.
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The assembly numbers on both rifles match BUT there is no assembly code on either forearm. Pics tell all. buttplate and lower left tang buttstock forearm-no markings or any indication there ever were any. I thought it was interesting that the assembly codes on the rifles differed only as follows, serial# 9686xx is TA 12E and serial # 9688xx is TG 12E. Even though the serial #'s are about 150 apart I'm thinking they were assembled only a few guns apart. Any thoughts on this? 1930 vintage 99E 250-3000 with Lyman Alaskan and Stith mount. Putting the scope on this rifle was my other project this afternoon. Oops! Is this off the subject?
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Mike, forgot to thank you earlier for posting the pics of the E from the 1960 catalog.
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Those two 1960 E's in your photo are for sure not the standard versions. May be one or two more of that variation will turn up in that serial range. My statement is based on my collected data of 17, 1960 style 99E's: 2ea - as pictured in the 1960 catalog with non-checkered EG style forearm, plastic butt plate, no grip cap and no filled grip cap screw hole. Both have LBC's of "K" (1959) indicating to me that the intent was to use the EG style wood. (Serials in the 967xxx range) 2ea - that you now own. EG style forearm, metal butt plate, no grip cap but filled screw hole (grip area cut as show in the catalog) and sling swivels. I don't remember if they have the same low end rear sight as the others (?). (Serials in the 9686xx to 9688xx range) 13ea - as cataloged but with a non-checkered "F" style forearm. All have the LBC of "L". (Serial range 9683xx to 9694xx) So, back to my statement. Are your two 1960 E's the standard? I would say "no". I'm hoping that one or two more will show up so we can see where yours fit in. Are your's 1960 E's...not an EG or R or F so must be an E, just not in the standard configuration. (remember the 99-H, V1-3, small group of non-brl bands assembled 5 yrs late)
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Rick, I should have kept passing numbers to you for the non-checkered F style forearm. Probably another 4-6.
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You never have enough data.
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You guys are the record keepers and have been at this a lot longer than I have but when I owned those David has I looked feverishly for a few years and don't remember seeing even one of the other style 1960 E. I have seen a photo or two you guys have posted tho so they're out there, but 20 to 1 ratio? Seen 2 recently with the uncheckered E style forearm, one with recoil pad and another priced way high. I don’t even bother to get serial numbers any more. They are very unremarkable looking, very easy to skip past them. Next one I see go by I’ll forward to you. Here’s one with recoil pad. SN 968631 https://www.gunbroker.com/item/799628260
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39 to go to get the 20:1 ratio!
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You looked for years and couldn't find one.
I gave you a link to one within a week.
'Nuf said.
“ The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com
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Look forward to the next 39.
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