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The ones adopting that attitude have never stood the two cartridges side by side to discover the considerable difference in shoulder position, and therefore case capacity. Rather than post a picture, let's let them do it! Participatory learning, as opposed to simple lecture, results in greater understanding and comprehension. Ted (With apologies. Haven't had breakfast yet!)
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Don't make no dang sense, 7x57 is a long action anyway, just make it 280 Remington.
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Don't make no dang sense, 7x57 is a long action anyway, just make it 280 Remington. Amen
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Makes perfect sense to me. I prefer a 7x57 to a 280 Rem every day of the week, and twice on Sunday.
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Exactly. beyond nostalgia, what will a 7x57 do that a 280 won't?
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I once used to neck down 8x57 cases to 7x57 because I was short of brass. Works fine. Five pages of what's the big deal?
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I know this is an older thread but I took the 8x57 case and opened up on the shoulder like the old Gibbs cartridges with a 40* shoulder so it a bit more that an Ackley. Then I chambered it from 6mm up through .375. in the 7mm version it outshoots my 280 Remington and almost up with my 280 Ackley, all out of an intermediate length Mauser. Couldn't be more happy with it. Call this the HSI (Hileman Super Improved) family. It's a wicked bunch of cartridges.
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I have no clue what it is called. But I do know that I can't see from looking at the 7x57 cartridge dimensions and the 8x57 cartridge dimensions I can't agree there's that much difference in capacity. At least there's not enough to make it into anything close to a .280 Remington and especially not a .280 AI. As for my opinion, for any practical purposes the differences between an original 7x57 Mauser and making one out of an 8x57 case can be ignored. it might look great on paper but I bet in the real world they would be ballistic twins.
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Regarding the title: what cartridge results from necking down the 8x57 to 7mm and trimming back to 57mm with no other changes? No, it isn't the standard 7x57mm Mauser, since the shoulder length and angle are different. And it has probably 5% greater capacity than the 7x57 Mauser, and perhaps 13% greater capacity than the 7mm-08. Criminy... Why not just re-chamber to 7X57 AI and make it easy?
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Name it the 7mm BS
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Naw, the 7x57 isn't a Barsness-Sisk wildcat....
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I was thinking Big Stick
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Exactly. beyond nostalgia, what will a 7x57 do that a 280 won't? Have a slower bullet traveling a higher arch in trajectory. No replacement for displacement. A larger powder tank (fuselage) has good usage. Jerry
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The ones adopting that attitude have never stood the two cartridges side by side to discover the considerable difference in shoulder position, and therefore case capacity. Rather than post a picture, let's let them do it! Participatory learning, as opposed to simple lecture, results in greater understanding and comprehension. Ted (With apologies. Haven't had breakfast yet!) The 7x57 = 1.470" to the beginning of the shoulder. The 8x57 = 1.500" to the beginning of the shoulder. Both cartridge cases are 57MM in length. What was the question again???? Paul B.
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