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I bought a Ruger American Predator a while back. The good : Right out of the box it would shoot factory stuff under MOA for three shots. That is with the floppy stock hitting the barrel and the factory trigger at 3.5 lbs.
with handloads most three shot groups were .5" and 5 shots usually ,75 with occasional fliers opening up to 1"
Opened up the factory stock to float the barrel and put a spring kit and the trigger is now 1.75 lbs. the fliers are gone. All good.
The NOT GOOD It will not feed anything. Called Ruger and they sent another magazine. Will not feed anything. Several fixes on you tube with questionable results
the even worse!! Since the stock has been modified they will not work on the rifle unless the stock is replaced on my nickel. Of course the trigger spring has to come out.
Six weeks turn around.
So I have a cheap accurate single shot
Perhaps I can mess with one magazine before I send it in. I really don't want to buy another schitty stock.
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What cartridge? The early 223's had magazine issues but I thought that was corrected long ago. FWIW I've not had any feeding issues with the magazines, but I've had 2 of the 4 round rotary magazines break when I dropped them loaded. It doesn't seem to hurt them if dropped unloaded. One landed on a carpeted floor, the other on my driveway. I've since gotten rid of those versions and now have a 308 that takes the AI style magazines and a 223/5.56 that takes AR magazines. I like them much better.
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Load the mag's full and let them sit like that for a week or two. It takes the flex out of the lips of the magazine.
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Boyds/AICS DBM. Congratulations?!?
Hint...............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Or you can send the Ruger down the road to buy a Tikka (for the same amount in an upgraded Ruger) and not need any of that.
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Oooopsie! You Window Licking Clueless Fhuqks are a hoot. Congratulations?!? Hint...............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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I've have/have had the RAR rifles in 223, 6mm & 6.5 Creed, and 450 Bushmaster. All have been MOA shooters @ 100 yds. Only the 223 had feeding issues. A new magazine fixed that problem.
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If it isn't an AICS footprinted DBM,it is mechanically a HEAVY compromise. Congratulations?!? Oooopsie! Hint....................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Sell it and buy the AI-mag version. Or, if it's new enough to have interchangeable BM, buy the AI BM from Ruger and carry on.
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Other than the 204 and 223, folks claim that the 450 magazines solve all feeding problems for those cartridges with rim diameters of 0.473".
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I bought a Ruger American Predator a while back. The good : Right out of the box it would shoot factory stuff under MOA for three shots. That is with the floppy stock hitting the barrel and the factory trigger at 3.5 lbs.
with handloads most three shot groups were .5" and 5 shots usually ,75 with occasional fliers opening up to 1"
Opened up the factory stock to float the barrel and put a spring kit and the trigger is now 1.75 lbs. the fliers are gone. All good.
The NOT GOOD It will not feed anything. Called Ruger and they sent another magazine. Will not feed anything. Several fixes on you tube with questionable results
the even worse!! Since the stock has been modified they will not work on the rifle unless the stock is replaced on my nickel. Of course the trigger spring has to come out.
Six weeks turn around.
So I have a cheap accurate single shot
Perhaps I can mess with one magazine before I send it in. I really don't want to buy another schitty stock.
Lefty C UPDATE Looking closely at the magazine as I manually push rounds through I can see that the front of the case right at the case shoulder junction is tight. This causes the front of the case not to rise to the top of the magazine, but the back of the case to raises to the top thereby pointing the case downward causing the point of the bullet to jam into the front of the magazine. Factory rounds work a little better as they are about .010 smaller in dia. But they still jam. Solution: Set magazine up in my mill and took about .005 off each side for 1/4" of the front of the magazine. Problem solved! Rounds pop up, feed straight to the feed ramp and into the chamber. Every time. Magazines still suck. They are egg shell thin plastic. I know this rifle is built to a price point, but Ruger could do better. Rest of the rifle is great. Lefty
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Boyds/AICS DBM. Congratulations?!?
Hint...............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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I recently bought a Ruger American in .223 that takes AR mags. I put an E carbo spring in that dropped the trigger to 1.8 lbs., and a muzzle brake. While it does not cycle as smooth as my Tikka, it does not fail to feed and eject them, with any AR mag I put in it. Shoots like a dream. I am extremely happy with mine.
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2gogsfhuqking,
You are 1/2 way there. Congratulations?!?
AR mags do not begin to have the COAL requisite,to do ANY favors.
Boyds/AICS DBM
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Spring rains must have flooded out his bridge abode. Nothing better to do than corrupt the forum. At least some of us know how to get out and shoot.
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KenBitchagain,
Dangle "your" RAR pics. Congratulations?!?
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Unfortunately boyds does not make the LH stock that will fit the metal detachable magazines, only the plastic rotary ones……….
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I don't think you would have anything to loose by tweaking one of the 2 mags you have since they are not feeding anyway. You might be able to figure it out. Sounds like the you tube fixes were of no help.
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I bought a Ruger American Predator a while back. The good : Right out of the box it would shoot factory stuff under MOA for three shots. That is with the floppy stock hitting the barrel and the factory trigger at 3.5 lbs.
with handloads most three shot groups were .5" and 5 shots usually ,75 with occasional fliers opening up to 1"
Opened up the factory stock to float the barrel and put a spring kit and the trigger is now 1.75 lbs. the fliers are gone. All good.
The NOT GOOD It will not feed anything. Called Ruger and they sent another magazine. Will not feed anything. Several fixes on you tube with questionable results
the even worse!! Since the stock has been modified they will not work on the rifle unless the stock is replaced on my nickel. Of course the trigger spring has to come out.
Six weeks turn around.
So I have a cheap accurate single shot
Perhaps I can mess with one magazine before I send it in. I really don't want to buy another schitty stock.
Lefty C UPDATE Looking closely at the magazine as I manually push rounds through I can see that the front of the case right at the case shoulder junction is tight. This causes the front of the case not to rise to the top of the magazine, but the back of the case to raises to the top thereby pointing the case downward causing the point of the bullet to jam into the front of the magazine. Factory rounds work a little better as they are about .010 smaller in dia. But they still jam. Solution: Set magazine up in my mill and took about .005 off each side for 1/4" of the front of the magazine. Problem solved! Rounds pop up, feed straight to the feed ramp and into the chamber. Every time. Magazines still suck. They are egg shell thin plastic. I know this rifle is built to a price point, but Ruger could do better. Rest of the rifle is great. Lefty Agreed, Ruger could have done better by using a blind staggered magazine like Marlin used in their X guns and Savage used for years in their 110 series.
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