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So you make money at a doc in the box..? Most of those docs are pretty much washed up laughing stocks....then you brag about how rich you are by buying motorcycles? I know folks like you, there are a few in every town. A suck on society....but they, like yourself seem to enjoy being kicked in the nuts. I blame your parents, and you should too. They created a royal piece of garbage. Enjoy never seeing another democrap in the White House in your lifetime.

" Because they werent Russian intelligence agents. They were illegal fbi plants. "

Illegal FBI plants? So, only now we learn that Natalia Veselnitskaya (Russian lawyer), Rinat Akhmetshin (Russian lobbyist), Anatoli Samochornov (Russian translator) and, Irakly Kaveladze (Russian real estate executive) were FBI plants (who just happened to have Kremlin and Russian intelligence connections? Fake News or Deep State?

Was the meeting to discuss "adoptions" or something else? Why did DJTjr and Manafort lie about the meeting and its purpose? Curious minds want to know.

#2 "Those that were charged were charged with crimes not connected to the Trump campaign"
- Wasn't Paul Manafort Donald Trump's Campaign Chairman for 5 months in 2016? (see: http://fortune.com/2017/03/22/paul-manafort-donald-trump-vladimir-putin/ )
- Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to investigators about Russian contacts while he was working as a foreigh policy advisor for the campaign.
- Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to campaign-finance violations for the hush-money payments.
- George Papadopoulos was a campaign advisor who lied about his contacts with Russian agents.
(see: http://time.com/5556331/mueller-investigation-indictments-guilty-pleas/ )

#4 "You understand that often criminal investigations don't exonerate anyone right?"
- Many times they do exonerate people as the investigators rule out people initially suspected of a crime; since most investigations do not result in a politically-charged report, such exonerations are not publicly revealed.

#5 "Trump wisely listened to legal counsel."
- Yes he was wise to listen to legal counsel. As a well known liar (over 9,000 since inauguration), it was the best advise an attorney could give his client to prevent a "Purgery trap" (Rudy Giuliani's words).

#7 "I don't read liberal opinion pieces when I have facts before me. "
- What facts? I have no stake in the Mueller investigation. No, I don't like nor respect Trump; his continual pattern of lying and his behavior disgust me. BUT, unless there is ironclad evidence of "high crimes and misdemeanors", I oppose impeachment proceedings; and the Mueller Investigation did not find a smoking gun. However, it did result in a large number of indictments. pleas and convictions (see: http://time.com/5556331/mueller-investigation-indictments-guilty-pleas/ ) - this is hardly an exoneration of the Trump Campaign.

Hahah. Tump was crooked?

Now tell us Hill and Zero arent. Prove the extent of your dumbfukedry.

Your country is a lot better off now than at any time in years, except for that we will all be dead in 12 more, right?

Show us how smart you really are. How are open borders and muzxy immigration good for us. Oh yeah, because thats what the deep state is pushing, right? And the deep state really cares about us, right? And thats why Hilkary was going to shoot Putins jets out of the sky because he is a bad guy, right? And he cant hurt us with war, right?

But Trump needs to handle little Kim with kid gloves because he will blow us away, right?
And China and Japan dont have open borders or allow muzzy immigration because they are dumbasses, right?

Yeah, right.

You are super duper triple stupid.

Here you go, dumbass. Try a little truth every once in a while, just to stay prepared.

Maybe learn a bit about how investigations are supposed to work in a democratic republic ran based on laws that protect the innocent, where exculpatory evidence is factored in rather than excluded, is in a third world crap hole.

It's WAY past time to stop defending an innocent man. It is NOW time to turn the white hot blow torch of justice on the clinton-obama treasonous cabal that attempted a coup and performed an aggressive illegal political proctological exam on our innocent and duly elected President. Offense, NOW!


Mitt is swamp scum, arrogant self-righteous swamp scum.

I agree with most of this. However, Mueller found clear and bullet proof evidence of obstruction of justice. Irrefutable. He clearly stated that he was following present OLC policy of not being able to indict a sitting president, and that mistaken policy is the only reason Trump isn't under indictment. Yet. However, Mueller clearly indicates that impeachment is possible, and, from what I've seen, obligatory to protect our democracy. I think a full investigation by the various House committees will show the public that Trump is guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors. Impeachment will likely follow, the Senate will be in a tough spot. They will have to choose between fealty to the "monstrous clown with the monstrous ego" in the WH and our Constitution, our democracy and our country.

Italics are words spoken by David McCullough. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co4kTFb4YYA

paddler that is bullshit of the highest order and you damned well know it.

Paddler - I tried to limit my comments to what was actually placed in evidence, not non-evidentiary facts (which while true, may not be admissible). As for the FAKE NEWS that many here refer to, MarketWatch (an on-line WSJ publication) has the headline today "Fake news? Mueller findings show reporting on Russia had it mostly right" (see: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/f...ly-right-2019-04-20?mod=mw_theo_homepage ).

Many here refute well-documented reports in nationally acclaimed publications (e.g., The New York Times, The Washington Post - both re acclaimed as reference sources) claiming that their referenced sources are superior. Go figure.

I also believe that while many here do not accept the findings of Mueller's Report, time and history will recognize the significance - to the detriment of Donald Trump's legacy.

Yep djs, you just keep reading the WSJ, NYT, WP and forming opinions based on their reporting...... do that and you will continue to be viewed as a fool and useful idiot.....

Once a swamp creature always a swamp creature, sold out for a pension.. yep

I was talking about the part in the Mueller report where Trump ordered Lewandowski to tell Sessions to unrecuse himself, then have Sessions order Mueller to limit his investigation to FUTURE criminal acts, thus shutting down the investigation into Trump himself. That was obstruction, and is in the report. Not withstanding that Lewandowski was not in the administration, but just a private citizen himself so not capable of doing so. Lewandowski took contemporaneous notes on those meeting and put them in his safe. Mueller details multiple other instances of similar acts. Again, Mueller clearly states that he couldn't indict Trump due to OLC policy. Note also that Barr's initial four page summary of the "principal conclusions" stated that Mueller's decision not to indict Trump was not informed by OLC policy, and thus was a bald-faced, out and out lie. No idea why Barr has acted this way, as he had to know his skullduggery would soon be exposed.

I thought I recalled the magic negroe using taxpayer money to fund efforts to interfere in the Israeli elections. Why is Russian interference in our elections such a big deal? Is there a double standard?

And another thing. The Mueller report references comments Trump made when he found out he was being investigated. I think those comments were fully justified considering the extent of corruption in the government and the fact that there was a coup trying to oust him from office. How many times was he asked if he would accept the results of the election? Maybe there actually is a double standard!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=8oSaCK9sRgk Poor Paddler.Caught in another lie.

And another, another thing. When the magic negroe was in office, he was the most powerful man in the free world. Now that Trump is President, isn't he the most powerful man in the free world? If you accept a position in the Presidents cabinet you are expected to advise him, help him establish policy and put those policies in place. Part of advising him is telling him when he wants to do something that is illegal and keeping him out of trouble whether legally or politically. I think his staff is to be commended for not doing things they knew were illegal even if he asked them to do so. Trump was a business man not a politician. It has gotten to the point laws are intended to entrap people and that is exactly what Mueller and his staff tried to do. The fact that they spent two years and millions of dollars and were unable to find anything significant should bring closure to this whole affair. Dems need to accept the result of the election and get about the task of MAGA.

.......................OH Piddles!!! Oh Piddles!!!!......LOL>>>>LOL....

Quoting you from above,, you BONEHEAD............."""Mueller found CLEAR and BULLET PROOF EVIDENCE of obstruction of justice."""

THEN WHY didn't Mueller recommend obstruction of justice charges against Trump?????.........

You and your other Trump hating bros in the media as well as the entire demoCRAP party have absolutely NO concept of the law. The investigative role of any special counsel is to either bring charges or exonerate after all facts and evidence is learned and NOT to write an essay of absolutely NO LEGAL STANDING such as volume 2 to then hand it over to congress.............You cannot charge someone or anyone including the POTUS with obstruction of justice based on heresay, he said this or he said that or based on any one of the so-called 10 episodes which is all subject to interpretation as to what and how Trump meant certain things when he said them...................In another words you stupid idiot. Mueller did NOT have any rock solid basis for any obstruction of justice charges whatsoever.................You are one pathetic piece of crap,,,,,PADDLER!!!!

"do that and you will continue to be viewed as a fool and useful idiot....."
* You mean like a useful idiot that was used by the Russians? Except, I am not President.


"Once a swamp creature always a swamp creature, sold out for a pension."
* My retired-employee annuity (not a pension, but an annuity) is less than 15% of my annual income, so I fail to see how I sold out. I worked 32 years in the Federal government and 23 years in the private sector. My income in 1984 in the private sector was twice as much as I received in my last year with the Feds (2013) without any inflation adjustment. Since we lived on my after-tax income of about $150,000 in 1984, we were able to save a considerable amount; we invested the balance which is now worth considerably more.

Sold out? - naw. I enjoyed the policy and R&D aspects I experienced in Federal employment; money is just not that important.

I'm surprised you guys fell for the doublespeak in this clip. Compare the clip to the Mueller report. Pretty obvious, really.

My side hurts.

Well, your stupidity is on full display in this post. Read my post again, I explained it once already. It actually looks like Mueller is recommending impeachment. He also says that Trump can be indicted after leaving office. Unless he's reelected, the statute of limitations will not have expired. The SOL is five years, and his obstruction occurred in 2017. So, if he leaves office in January 2021, he's f*cked. Just like he so insightfully said.

I have not read the report but if you tell me which page I will look it up.