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Briefly, Craig Boddington in Nosler #7 manual says the 8 is better than the 338. - at long range.
I don’t know but that’s his opinion.
Also for unknown reason or reasons 8mm really hasn’t been that popular in the USA. ? Maybe ? because of its background ?
I know I like my 8 RM Mag.
Diff strokes...... Thnx
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If my choice was a 8 mag and a 200 grain bullet vs. a .338 Win mag and a 250 grain bullet for long range I would choose the 8 mag. Now if it was an 8 mag vs. a .340 Wby or a .338 RUM,I would pick the .340 or RUM.
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I think it was Remingtons attempt at challenging the 300 win mag and 300 Bee. Charles Atkins (IIRC), used to write about using it in Africa. But it’s been over 30 years, so my memory sucks.
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viking I don't remember what was said about WHY Rem developed the 8 Mag. I have the S T mag with JRS' article and need to re read it. IN 1978 there were NOT the bullets available then that we have today so....... Obviously from the responses 'here' alone, I'm not the only one who is glad they did. Again, There have been many more positive responses than I expected. And you know we are a small sampling of the shooting - hunting world. BTW I like your opinion better than Ken's ! ! Jerry
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That hurt,Jwall.
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If my choice was a 8 mag and a 200 grain bullet vs. a .338 Win mag and a 250 grain bullet for long range I would choose the 8 mag. Now if it was an 8 mag vs. a .340 Wby or a .338 RUM,I would pick the .340 or RUM. Ken - (smile) I'm NOT trying to start or engage in a bullet--BC debate. You know how bullet weights and BCs can be 'juggled' for the hunter's purpose to prove/disprove their points. The 200 in .323 doesn't compare to the 250 in .338 bore. I understand your perspective and would agree. OTOH there are better bullet/BC comparisons. Seriously, I'm not involved in long range hunting with EITHER cal/cartridge. So I don't want to get involved in any debate. Thnx for your input. Jerry
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I would like to see Nosler come out with a 220 or 225 gr Accubond. I've not used the 220 gr Sierra on game but I've read that it is a relatively soft bullet. I had plans to shoot the 200 gr Accubond but when the 200 gr Partition was shooting half moa right out of the gate I decided to roll with it, knowing it's long range limitations with the low BC. The Cutting Edge 225 gr I posted the link to earlier would be a serious long range bullet with it's .640 G1 BC but due to it's length it is would not fit into a magazine.
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Jwall,no harm done and like I said it's my choice. I don't pay any attention to BC,SD or any numbers like that. I pay more attention to bullet construction and take it from there.
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Absolutely.
I said earlier in this thread I'm not shooting 600-1000 yds like J Burns.
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I would like to see Nosler come out with a 220 or 225 gr Accubond. I've not used the 220 gr Sierra on game but I've read that it is a relatively soft bullet. I had plans to shoot the 200 gr Accubond but when the 200 gr Partition was shooting half moa right out of the gate I decided to roll with it, knowing it's long range limitations with the low BC.
I made the same decision when we did NOT have many options in .323 bullet availability. Thnx Jerry
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Absolutely.
I said earlier in this thread I'm not shooting 600-1000 yds like J Burns.
Jerry My shots on average are 200 yards or less. There have been two deer that I killed over two hundred yards in the last 3-4 years,one was 210 yards and the other was 228 yards. The last elk I killed was around 100-125 yards away and I killed it with a .35 Whelen and a 250 grain Speer at just over 2400 fps.
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I would like to see Nosler come out with a 220 or 225 gr Accubond. I've not used the 220 gr Sierra on game but I've read that it is a relatively soft bullet. I had plans to shoot the 200 gr Accubond but when the 200 gr Partition was shooting half moa right out of the gate I decided to roll with it, knowing it's long range limitations with the low BC.
I made the same decision when we did NOT have many options in .323 bullet availability. Thnx Jerry Phhtt.. how many bullets do you need? With a 8mm 200 grain NP or the 200/220 Swift A-Frame I am able to kill any animal in NA and most of Africa. How much more choice does one need?
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I would like to see Nosler come out with a 220 or 225 gr Accubond. I've not used the 220 gr Sierra on game but I've read that it is a relatively soft bullet. I had plans to shoot the 200 gr Accubond but when the 200 gr Partition was shooting half moa right out of the gate I decided to roll with it, knowing it's long range limitations with the low BC.
I made the same decision when we did NOT have many options in .323 bullet availability. Thnx Jerry Phhtt.. how many bullets do you need? With a 8mm 200 grain NP or the 200/220 Swift A-Frame I am able to kill any animal in NA and most of Africa. How much more choice does one need? That's a good point.
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What kills is the destruction of the vital organs or the CNS being hit. It's all about shot placement and how the bullet performs i.e. penetrate and expand.
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What kills is the destruction of the vital organs or the CNS being hit. It's all about shot placement and how the bullet performs i.e. penetrate and expand. No argument here. We have such a huge variety of bullets that will do the job(across the spectrum of calibers) that we've become a bit spoiled. Not that that is a bad thing?
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It's not,but a huge selection of bullets is not a reason to not buy a certain caliber. The 8mm is a perfect example IMO.
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I have a 9x57 and my bullet choice is two a 200 gr and a 250 gr,both from Hawk bullets. I use the 250 grain bullet.
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It's not,but a huge selection of bullets is not a reason to not buy a certain caliber. The 8mm is a perfect example IMO.
Again, agreed. I've never had an 8mm Remington, but did have a 325 WSM in a Kimber. I shot 200gr partitions out of it. No worries there...
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I made the same decision when we did NOT have many options in .323 bullet availability.
Phhtt.. how many bullets do you need? With a 8mm 200 grain NP or the 200/220 Swift A-Frame I am able to kill any animal in NA and most of Africa. How much more choice does one need? Xactly ! No argument here. We have such a huge variety of bullets that will do the job(across the spectrum of calibers) that we've become a bit spoiled. Not that that is a bad thing?
Agreed! Variety is a good thing ! I have a 9x57 and my bullet choice is two a 200 gr and a 250 gr,both from Hawk bullets. I use the 250 grain bullet. Xactly again. The same principle applies to the 277 vs 284, specifically 270 W vs. 280 R. W/O doubt there are many more weights in 7mm BUT how many different do we actually USE ? " " " 284 vs 308. Per the 8mm -- when you have a 200 NP, what more do you need-----not counting cheaper to use in practice. I'm telling on myself (as if that's needed). Being a JOC fan since 1975...... I don't use or need 250 gr bullets in MY rifles. I know there are cartridges and BIG game where 240--500 gr bullets give more comfort. I just don't need them. Thnx Fellows Jerry
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