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Got a new to me 9.3x62. It's an early 1950s Commercial FN 98 Mauser. I've purchased some Hornady brass, a can of Varget, and a box of Nosler 250g Accubonds. Plowing through a bit of Campfire history, I dug up the threads which contain the 60.5g of Varget along with the Accubond that seems to be a favorite, though you note it is well beyond the Nosler listed max of 56.5g.
Any suggestions where to start with my load development? I'd like to think the FN should be good for the 60.5g, but recognize the foolhardines of of a starting load beyond the listed max. Advice would be much appreciated.
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Nice rifle!
You might want to be start around 55 grains. Haven't found a commercial 9,3x62 yet with a "modern" short throat, but you never know. They've all had the typical long throats of older cartridges developed around heavy, round-nosed bullets.
That said, have seen the charge of Varget required to get to 2600+ with 250's vary somewhat in different rifles, and with different bullets, cases, primers and even the particular lot of Varget. But can't imagine 55 not being a safe starting load.
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My only load for my 9.3x62 is a 270 grain Speer Hotcore over 59 grains of IMR 4895. I think it's around 2500 FPS. It's accurate but it rock's my bones pretty good>
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That's JB's loads that I have used when I first got a CZ 550 in 9.3X62. Never had to look any further.
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Thanks John, and much appreciate the others who joined in as well. I'll hang on to all that info. Will start at 55, and work my way up a bit at a time. May not get all the way to 60.5, but I'm not greatly concerned about hitting the 2600 fps mark. Just looking to get minute of moose/deer/bear kill zone to a touch over 200 yds. Anything further than that goes free unless it's giving me an absolutely irresistable full side view!
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All my reloading books are old and out of date. All but a couple are pre Varget. I use Varget in my .223s but never had a clue that it could work so well something like a 9.3x62. That's what I get for being so cheap and failing to up grade my library. I can hardly believe a powder so versatile that it works so good in a 9.3x62 as well as in a lowly .223. Now THAT'S what I call a versatile propellant.
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John's loads I posted were pressure tested and have stood the test of time. When I had my 9.3x62, I used those loads with good success.
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That's JB's loads that I have used when I first got a CZ 550 in 9.3X62. Never had to look any further. John saved me money and time by publishing that data......60 grs of Varget and the 250 TSX works just fine. Varget works well in my 9.3 as well as in two 22-250s with heavier bullets.
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That's JB's loads that I have used when I first got a CZ 550 in 9.3X62. Never had to look any further. John saved me money and time by publishing that data......60 grs of Varget and the 250 TSX works just fine. Varget works well in my 9.3 as well as in two 22-250s with heavier bullets. Yep, John saved me money, too But, this Fire business in general has cost me more than I've saved... DF
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Yep, John saved me money, too But, this Fire business in general has cost me more than I've saved... DF +1
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This is my favorite JB article of all time, I've read it a 1000 times!
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This is my favorite JB article of all time, I've read it a 1000 times! I agree. I've printed this page and it is the first page to my loading notes for my 9.3x62. I also have a CZ 550 and his info made it so easy to find an accurate load. I load both 250 gr AccuBond and 286 gr NP's and both were within .5 grains of his published data. Also, I use his load info for my .358 Win using TAC. What a great resource!
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I be used them in my REMINGTON 03A3 ser # 4,000,000 plus, does fine!
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Norma 232 grain Vulcan with 15 grains Trail Boss is a good no recoil practice load in my 9.3x62 rifles. A lot of fun.
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62g of H414 with Barnes 250 TSX and Fed 215 primers has been my go to for twenty years. R-15 is a great powder, and maybe produces slightly smaller groups in my rifles.
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Norma 232 grain Vulcan with 15 grains Trail Boss is a good no recoil practice load in my 9.3x62 rifles. A lot of fun. I load the 232gn Oryx and Vulcan for deer (fallow) and pigs in my No,1S. No need for anything heavier with that size game. I use H4895 powder.
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When I traded for my 98 actioned Husky last year, I was given a baggie of 232 gr bullets. I posted a pic of one here trying to get an ID on them, and the consensus was that they were older Normas, either Vulcans or Oryx. I've read that one of them, Vulcan I think, might be a little fragile at X62 velocities, but figured either would be fine for our whitetail deer. With my moderate load of RL15, they shoot very well, have a great trajectory, and surprisingly have the same POI as my 270 gr loads at 100 yds. Haven't had a chance to test them on a deer as yet, however.
Elvis, I would love to hear a little more detail on your experience with them. If you're willing, I would also like to get more detail on your loads, via PM if you'd like to not broadcast them.
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All my reloading books are old and out of date. All but a couple are pre Varget. I use Varget in my .223s but never had a clue that it could work so well something like a 9.3x62. That's what I get for being so cheap and failing to up grade my library. I can hardly believe a powder so versatile that it works so good in a 9.3x62 as well as in a lowly .223. Now THAT'S what I call a versatile propellant. Works pretty good in the 375 H&H Mag with 250g Barnes TTSX as well. Very accurate in my experience.
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