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I didn't get past the into where the broad was talking about the Hope-eye tribe. Is this a lib renaming a tribe to make herself sound edumacated? Or have we been pronouncing the name Hopi incorrectly ? Maybe a tribe I'm not familiar with? I'm not a liberal expert in these things. I have only read all I could get my hands on for 67 years. Rusty

I think Paulides said he has about three theories, but he never talks or publishes them because he thinks that his role is simply reporting the facts as he discovers them. His facts cannot be denied as they are a matter of record. Some of the stuff he reports is hearsay since he does relate some incidents he's had. They are probably verifiable as well. Some are the repeated stonewalling by the Park Service since many of the disappearances have occurred in National Parks. Others are individual Park personnel speaking off the record to him and disputing some of the claims made by his superiors. One of the claims is that the government has no record of how many people have disappeared. Anybody that knows the government knows that this is untrue because they keep records of everything. This is one of the things in dispute by individuals within the Park Service.

I've always pronounced the tribe's name with a long "o" sound. I noticed that also and don't know what the deal is although you can't expect everybody to be an expert on natives. IIRC the chick had a British accent. I also thought it might be a tribe I wasn't familiar with especially since again IIRC, the incident was in northern California or northwest Nevada and the Hopis are from hundreds of miles south in the southwest...like the Four Corners region at the northernmost. Thinking Navajo country.

Aliens in the mountains.

I haven't watched the video but if the incident happened in Northern California the tribe in question is most likely the Hoopa. The are a North Western California tribe.

There was an incident in nearby Big Timber, MT. that Paulides speaks of in his lectures. A bowhunter, Aaron Hedges, disappeared in the Crazy Mountain range and his remains were found 2 years later. One of the hallmarks of Paulides’ research indicates that these missing folks often remove their footwear at some point while apparently wandering lost. Hedges’ boots were found some 11 miles from his remains. Evidently he had removed them and walked the 11 miles barefoot over extremely unforgiving high alpine terrain in up to 3 feet of snow. Strange indeed.

That is what some people do when they get hypothermia.

Typical of hypothermia. The victim becomes very disoriented.

Good stories but I soured on him for a number of reasons incl. the way he tends to add or subtract things from stories to make them fit his "profile points."

Although not that long ago a kid went missing for 3 days in NC IIRC and when he got home he said he had been "hanging out with a bear." ??? Paulides has several similar stories.

These people missing out of how many million visitors?

IIRC people in the latter stages of Hypothermia may feel hot and remove their clothes, greatly speeding up their deaths. In some of these cases though, the clothes will be found in perfect condition-not all torn and dirty like somebody who had been outdoors and walking, let alone through super-rugged terrain. IIRC in that particular incident, that was the case and IIRC those shoes were like new after supposedly two years of exposure on the mountaintop. This besides the fact that it would have been nearly impossible for a child of that age to have traveled that distance over that terrain. That incident is not the only one like it. There are many similar cases though if that is the one I am thinking about, the age of the child vs. the distance made it really stand out.

Many of the cases involve finding the person where SAR had searched already, repeatedly. Areas where SAR simply COULD NOT HAVE MISSED the person or body. These people are not always dead. Some have been found alive but always with either no memory of where they were during the period of time they were missing or in the case of some very young children, memories of being with animals like "a big bear" or "a big dog"...a wolf, etc.

Again, Paulides won't speculate, at least publicly, as to who or what is doing this nor why it is being done.

If you haven't watched one of the videos and familiarized yourself with the subject, then all you're really doing is trolling and being a dick.

If someone had never lived around that area or heard anyone pronounce it, how are they supposed to know how it's pronounced. I guess, unlike you, some people don't know everything.

One of the things that I don't understand is why the people are found at all. What the government's role in this as far as their stonewalling investigators is unclear. Are they just afraid of scaring people away from the parks that are, as far as statistically, relatively safe? (And I have no idea what those stats are as far as people who DON'T go missing as opposed to those that do since that is one of the things the government claims to have no record of!) What is their role? If the government was doing it or was in active collusion with who/whatever is doing it, would it not be easier and safer for them to just totally disappear the people and leave no evidence? Wtf?

Again, unless you believe the government really keeps no statistics on these disappearances, then you have to accept that the government is involved somehow, at the very least in keeping records of these incidents from public scrutiny.

Watch the videos. They are disturbing. Paulides is not the only one researching this, although he seems to be the foremost authority.

Sadly the people that need to go missing never do...

How many carry cell phones? I suspect there is a bit of a change to the numbers if you use them as PLDs.

That may very well be the case. I have never heard of the "Hoopa's" so maybe that's who she's talking about. In this instance, it was an actual chick, but many of these videos that aren't Paulides' own, are voiced by computers and the voices consistently mis-pronounce words, put the emphasis on words that aren't meant to be, etc.

I don't know Art, but evidently Paulides thinks that PLD's are more effective than a cell phone's ping. I called the cell company and tried to get them to ping my kid's cell when he lost it and they were unable to since it was evidently totally discharged. IDK if they just didn't gas or what but Paulides must think these PLD's are better or he has interest in one of the companies. lol

And again, at least in National Parks, there are no numbers. The government won't admit to keeping the stats.