Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters Boddington on the .270 Winchester

First,that is a Weatherby Mark V .460 Wby and I used a 400 grain Speer at 2500 fps on that bunny,the range was about 45 yards.

Same rifle and same load,except the range was about 75 yards.


As far as SD and BC those are two numbers I ignore. I'm more interested in bullet construction and performance.

Im with you 100%

The 160gr. Weldcore penetrates FAR FAR better than the 150gr partition. Most shoulder shots, the 150gr partition doesn't exit on elk. it's really not even vaguely close.;

The .270 was relegated to a second rate cartridge by the twist rate mistake Winchester made. It's unfortunate, as they could simply have copped the 7mm Mauser twist rate of 1:220mm (8.6") and been fine, but those are the facts.

I question your experience

That's nice. Facts are still facts, and they're not on your side

I bet those 130 grain NBT's or SGK 's .277 bullets can't kill a small white tail doe.

I don't understand why anyone would care what firearms or cartridges another person uses, as long as it doesn't directly impact them in negative manner. Heck, I don't care if most other people take their next breath, much less what firearm or cartridge they favor, as they are inconsequential to me.

I've shot an elk or 2 with the 270 and they died promptly. I'm pretty sure that those elk would have died just as quickly if I'd shot them with a different cartridge, just as long as I was using a properly constructed bullet and made the same bullet placement.

I like to shoot and am curious about new cartridges, so despite having a couple dozen rifles chambered for other 6.5mm bore cartridges, I bought a Weatherby Vanguard2 in 6.5 Creedmoor in 02/14. After shooting the 6.5 Creedmoor for a bit, I decided that for my needs it didn't do anything that those other rifles chambered for 6.5mm bore cartridges didn't do equally well. Curiously, I find myself with 12 more rifle chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor. Lots of redundancy in my gun room.

This +10

Next the only really enlightening fact of this whole thread is that Kirk Stovall aka Shrapnel aka Chuck Norris of MT DOES not own a SAKO L61R Deluxe chambered for 264 Win Mag. Damned if I don't see and smell some profit taking opportunity here...… MB

AND the CHEW ! CHEW ! CHEW !


Jerry

H E A R ! >> HERE >> HEAR This !!

I could NOT have said it any better and maybe not as well.


Jerry

If you read the article, Craig Boddington was the one who brought up the 6.5 cartridges and compared them to the .270.

uhhh, something like mine ?




Does this count ?

I got it in Dec, 2011 and killed my first deer with it the FIRST day I took it hunting in 2012.

EDIT to ADD >>> This Guy:





Since then @ 5 others. It does NOT have an excessively long throat. It's easy to load ammo for it. This is my 2nd Win 70 FTWT and LOVE the rifle.

It has a Swift 3-9X40 scope and it took longer to get the velocity UP to my specs than ANY 270 W I've ever had.

If that 6.5X55 wasn't in THAT rifle...... it'd be gone. For now, it's not for sale.


Jerry

LMAO.......and oh so true.

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I tried to read the article, twice. Fell asleep both times.....

You know, around 1964, remington made an announcement.of the 7mm rem mag. People squared off against between the new cartridge and rifle pitting guess what, the 270 in question. Before chronographs the 7mm was supposed to be a giant killer when compared to its opponents.
Time has a way of settling these problems. Just like then, the new model 700 was the talk of the town.
Far as i know the 270 will not go away. I think it will still be around. As time marches on the creedmoor will be eclipced by another new cartridge that everyone will just want. Are advancements in the future coming to us?
The 6.5 cm will not go away. But it may be relegated to the closet like a lot of other cartridges. Kinda reminds my own thoughts when i had to have an 06, and retired my 30/30. Then own to the 7 mag , then 270, the 6.5/284 etc
Rifle owners my self included want the latest and greatest. The way people love the 6.5 cm, i was just as struck whem remington came with the 260 about 22 years ago. Its literature in magazines was that it had more energy with the 140 at 200 yards than the 270 with the 130 grain bullet had. Seems like every cartridge that has come along in the last 60 years has had the 270 in their crosshairs..wonder why??

What is this low sectional density to which you keep referring?

The sectional density of a 6.5mm 140 grain bullet equals that of a 154 grain bullet (close enough to 150- grain not to matter) in a .270 or a 190 grain bullet in a .308 diameter.

As for "excessive" taper and "steep" shoulder angle, those make it more likely to feed properly, which is why the US military chose those angles for the 30-06 cartridge.

They may kill a small doe, but no way they'd work on a big buck. Not enough sectional density. Especially for the all-important "raking shot."

Rather than any of those scenarios, I would liken the actions of the pro-Creedmoorites (love that) more to those of the person who has recently stopped smoking and is on a crusade to approach everyone he meets and proclaim the gospel to them, as often as it takes for them to get it.

Yep, sort of. Mine was one of the early ones, an overrun leftover from a batch Winchester made for Scandinavian export, several long years before they intro'ed it as a regular offering on the domestic market. The main difference was the early ones had iron sights and a really long throat. I loaded 129 Interlocks out to max magazine length and still had a significant jump to get into the leade of the rifling. Surprisingly it shot them into an honest MOA or less nonetheless. I installed a Lyman 48 receiver sight (it was d/t'ed for it so why not), and mounted a Leupold 1.5-5 in a QD mount for backup. That gun is one of about five in my life I sold and would like back. It went to help finance the purchase of 36 acres of Pennsylvania forest complete with deer and trout stream.

This thread cracks me up and I hope it goes on and on and on. My favorite story CM boiled down is that a hunting buddy actually tried to convince me that his 6.5CM was superior to my .264WM because his bullet was 6.5mm. I told him that I had a hard time understanding that because my bullet was starting out at 3250 and his was starting at 2700. He said they told him at the gunshop that his would catch up to mine at longer ranges. I told him I didn't think it would.

I look at the 6.5 the same way I looked at the WSM's almost 20 years ago. The phenomenon causes people who own perfectly good rifles that I actually want, to go and trade their rifles in on rifles I have no use for, like WSM and CM's. I see it as a win for me. I just tune out their nonsense. I wish people were more knowledgeable about chamberings and ballistics but I guess I should just be happy that they shoot and hunt and don't play video games or wait in the mall for their wives.