Camp and shoot, Armijo springs camp ground just south of Quemado NM. Official shoots will be Saturday, all for fun, casual shooting the rest of the weekend.
Food supplied Friday and Saturday dinner, Saturday and Sunday breakfast, Saturday lunch. Bring your own drinks and snacks, coffee cup.
Camping on site or you can stay at the motel on Quemado.
All welcome bring the family.
A heads up, this will be the last time at Armijo, we will be combining the winter central AZ Tonto and summer Armijo NM events into one summer event located in northern Arizona, 100 to 150 miles west of Quemado. To be discussed at this years gathering.
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
p.s. for those of you who know me from attending in recent years, the news is that we are moving this month from the Paa-Ko Ridge golf community, a semi-gated area around a golf course, down the road about 20 minutes in the East Mountain area to a somewhat eclectic log cabin built in 1945 as a hunting lodge, on five acres backing up against the Sandia Mountains and the Cibola National Forest.
It has its own spring, rock-lined pool and shallow well with abundant sweet water, which is hard to find around here! Gravel road, good electric and decent propane tank, small lap pool, great views, surprisingly decent soil for the high desert and big enclosed garage.
Big stone fireplace and a couple of old cast iron Franklin stoves, but also hot water heating. Great, well seasoned big old logs in good condition. I believe that they will provide good insulation. (We'll see.)
It's on a secluded road on the Turquoise Trail just a minute or two off Interstate Route 40, so my son Robert, who plans to attend UNM in Albuquerque, can zip in there normally in no more than 15 minutes.
The garage allows me to access my power tools and toys out of sight, plus the dogs. And on that side, daughter Mary's new chicken coop, the result of this Easter's bundle of chicks. No homeowners restrictions on farm animals in the new place, and much closer the the local Tractor Supply!
You can expect a lot of questions and requests for help from you folks accustomed in rural life, as much is new to me.
Norm
Norman Solberg International lawyer, lately for 25 years in Japan, now working on trusts in the US, the 3rd greatest tax haven. NRA Life Member for over 50 years, NRA Endowment (2014), Patron (2016).
That looks like it's in the middle of nowhere. Is there even a Starbucks around?
There’s pie in ( wait for it) ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Pietown.
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
That looks like it's in the middle of nowhere. Is there even a Starbucks around?
If you are talking about Armijo Springs, no. That's the whole point! Great elk all over, though. One of the best areas in the state.
On the other hand, as Kaywoodie says, there IS the famous Pietown nearby, and folks come from all over to get there. I've even seen huge bicycle tour groups riding in from Socorro. Last year, we stopped on our way home in one of the pie shops which incidentally has pretty good coffee too!
When I went to pay the bill, it seemed awfully high. It turned out that my family had ordered several extras to take out! We were eating pie for close to a week.
Norm
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Norman Solberg International lawyer, lately for 25 years in Japan, now working on trusts in the US, the 3rd greatest tax haven. NRA Life Member for over 50 years, NRA Endowment (2014), Patron (2016).
That looks like it's in the middle of nowhere. Is there even a Starbucks around?
Yes, that's the idea - middle of nowhere in the minds of most, but it is a beautiful "nowhere" at 8,000 ft. in the mountains of the Gila NF. Summer air and environment at its best, And, those who have traveled to participate in this annual shindig for several years are actually more impressive than the place itself. An unique experience invented by the SW gang, perpetuated by a few dedicated guys and well-supported by great folks who come from near and far - some very far.. Of necessity, it looks as though this time will be the swan song for gathering at Armijo Springs. I'm going to enjoy it to the max, and will miss this particular site a bunch.
Very sad news that this will be the last year for Army-Joe. Julia and I have always enjoyed our time up there as well as the great company. We plan on attending again this year, barring any unforeseen circumstances..
Kent: We missed you last summer - if you’re cooking this go-‘round, I’ll be happy to contribute.
Miles: Julia sure loves that honey you gave her – we’ve been rationing it this past year, but sadly it will be gone soon.
Norm: Sounds like a great place, post some photos of the new place when you get a chance. Will Mary be attending again this year?
Ken: We look forward to seeing you and Judy.
Tracy: I hope you’ll be able to make the trip and Julia looks forward to seeing your girls again.
Paul: I seem to remember reading that you’re moving away from the area – does that have anything to do with this being the last get-together at Army-Joe?
- Kevin
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l told my pap and mam I was going to be a mountain man; acted like they was gut-shot. Make your life go here. Here's where the peoples is. Mother Gue, I says, the Rocky Mountains is the marrow of the world, and by God, I was right. - Del Gue
The two events we have been having started about the same year but for two different reasons, one close to Ken Howell and the other Greg Cameron. I feel responsible for each as I was involved with starting them, unfortunately both Ken and Greg are gone now, but not forgotten.
We were stormed out of the last Tonto event and it just clarified that we need to combine to one in the summer.
Paul has moved to Az from the Armijo area, after this year we will no longer have a host there.
We will just move east into Az, lots of wide open space with the same kind of country. Dennis and I will submit some choices.
Those two locations have run their course, it's just time to centralize.
I need to put in to schedule the time off. I look forward to this event every year, to seeing old friends, and making new friends.
See you there.
James Pepper: There's no law west of Dodge and no God west of the Pecos. Right, Mr. Chisum? John Chisum: Wrong, Mr. Pepper. Because no matter where people go, sooner or later there's the law. And sooner or later they find God's already been there.
Why do you guys always pick the time when I'm in AK salmon fishing? Maybe next time.
We tried doing it in mid July, the monsoon hadn't come yet, we had to 'camp' in a parking lot and drive to a shooting area, no fires allowed, forest was on restriction. Last year it was so bad the forests were closed but the monsoon hit with enough time the forest opened.
It's pretty much the last weekend of July or the first weekend of August every year, any later and it's pushing up against some hunting seasons, as it is bear starts about the same weekend here, my antelope hunt starts a few weeks later.
The first weekend in August works great for me. My girls are looking forward to camping. They learned a valuable lesson last year about leaving the tent door open during the rainy season. Thanks again to the grown-ups who helped them put the rainfly on correctly.
Thanks for the update and your continuing efforts to make these events successful, even having the cajones to cancel when it became obvious that last year at Tonto wasn't going to work.
Maybe I can even talk Miss Niki into accompanying me.
With great anticipation for seeing established friends and trying to remember most of their names!
“You must endeavour to enjoy the pleasure of doing good. That is all that makes life valuable.” Robert E. Lee, in a letter to his invalid wife.
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Hope I can swing it. Will be spending a week in middle of July at the Rocky Mountain National Rendezvous. May be cutting it close for my available time!!!!
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Bob, sure hope you can get out here for this one - maybe just stay west until that weekend?? As for some of the other very long-distance drivers - Miles and Ed - hope your calendars hold and you will join in. Randy? Brian? Partick/Leonard? John? Tracy? Donell? Gene? Others I missed here??
You need to start practicing. I expect to hear some yodeling.
James Pepper: There's no law west of Dodge and no God west of the Pecos. Right, Mr. Chisum? John Chisum: Wrong, Mr. Pepper. Because no matter where people go, sooner or later there's the law. And sooner or later they find God's already been there.
Bob, sure hope you can get out here for this one - maybe just stay west until that weekend?? As for some of the other very long-distance drivers - Miles and Ed - hope your calendars hold and you will join in. Randy? Brian? Partick/Leonard? John? Tracy? Donell? Gene? Others I missed here??
Seafire's Ugly face will be there.....don't have to move this year like I did last year...
I normally don't take vacations, so this is the only thing that is even close to resembling one...
I'll be there if for no other reason, is I miss all you lugs.....
if some of ya don't show up, I'll just have to take more time off and maybe half a dozen of us with time on our hands due to being retard... I mean Retired.... will just show up on your door steps... with say a couple of cases of beer so at least we will be half welcomed.....
"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC
“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
Right now, Donelle plans to be there with at least one, if not both, of the kids. However, she is in the running for a position in another school district. If she is selected, it is not clear how that would affect her attendance at Armijo Springs.
Stay tuned...
Ben
Some days it takes most of the day for me to do practically nothing...
Bob, sure hope you can get out here for this one - maybe just stay west until that weekend?? As for some of the other very long-distance drivers - Miles and Ed - hope your calendars hold and you will join in. Randy? Brian? Partick/Leonard? John? Tracy? Donell? Gene? Others I missed here??
Sir,
I am, putting in for those vacation days tomorrow. I can't wait to hit the road and be among great people once again. I hope to bring my two daughters again.
I sent Rick a PM asking him to make this thread a sticky. Maybe if someone else. or enough others, do so, it might come to pass.
Norm
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Norman Solberg International lawyer, lately for 25 years in Japan, now working on trusts in the US, the 3rd greatest tax haven. NRA Life Member for over 50 years, NRA Endowment (2014), Patron (2016).
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Still hoping to come. The girls are already happy about camping again. We have the .22s and the Henry in .357 ready to go as well.
Yes! Mary will be so pleased.
Norm
Norman Solberg International lawyer, lately for 25 years in Japan, now working on trusts in the US, the 3rd greatest tax haven. NRA Life Member for over 50 years, NRA Endowment (2014), Patron (2016).
Bob, sure hope you can get out here for this one - maybe just stay west until that weekend?? As for some of the other very long-distance drivers - Miles and Ed - hope your calendars hold and you will join in. Randy? Brian? Partick/Leonard? John? Tracy? Donell? Gene? Others I missed here??
Paul, I'm no longer a "very long-distance driver". I now live in Carlsbad! And, no, I don't have a good reason for not coming to see you and your lovely bride!
Also, I will be bringing a guest. Her name is "Kat", a true West Texas girl. That means, guys, she can SHOOT!
Kent, Please let us know what else is needed for the meals, etc...
Ed
"Not in an open forum, where truth has less value than opinions, where all opinions are equally welcome regardless of their origins, rationale, inanity, or truth, where opinions are neither of equal value nor decisive." Ken Howell
Well it looks like I will miss this rendezvous this year. Thought I had this cancer beat, but after my last chemo session April 5th, a PET scan and Dr consultation he didn't like the results. I started another regiment of chemo at the Mayo Clinic this week Wednesday and Thursday. This will go on until the middle of June . After that. I will get set up to have a bone marrow transplant. Which means 3 weeks in the hospital, then 2 weeks of home nursing to make sure I don't get sick.
On top of that, mom had a stroke at the end of Dec so I'm pretty much a 24-7 caregiver to her. It's hard for me to take 1 day off let alone a weekend. Thank God my cousin helps me out taking care of her when I have errands to do and she will stay with her while I'm in the hospital.
I will miss everyone. Hope you have a great time. Hopefully I will make it to the new meeting place next year.
Only a dingleberry, not yet a Turdlike person, maybe someday!!!
Originally Posted by northern_dave
I am happier than a retard in a room full of bouncy balls right now!!
Joe - such difficult news about your situation and I'm sorry you have to go through all of this.. Not only will you be missed at the gathering, you will have the support of ongoing prayers and well-wishes for your recovery.
Hang in there, Joe , and keep us posted on the bone marrow transplant. Ihave never donated bone marrow, but the Blood Center is always calling me for platelets.
Under the current category of "No reason to save this - but someone else might need it", do any of you all shoot/need .44 S&W Special brass? There is a double handful of the stuff here - will try to save and bring it to the gathering if you LMK. Watch for other stuff that may surface here.
Well it looks like I will miss this rendezvous this year. Thought I had this cancer beat, but after my last chemo session April 5th, a PET scan and Dr consultation he didn't like the results. I started another regiment of chemo at the Mayo Clinic this week Wednesday and Thursday. This will go on until the middle of June . After that. I will get set up to have a bone marrow transplant. Which means 3 weeks in the hospital, then 2 weeks of home nursing to make sure I don't get sick.
On top of that, mom had a stroke at the end of Dec so I'm pretty much a 24-7 caregiver to her. It's hard for me to take 1 day off let alone a weekend. Thank God my cousin helps me out taking care of her when I have errands to do and she will stay with her while I'm in the hospital.
I will miss everyone. Hope you have a great time. Hopefully I will make it to the new meeting place next year.
Dang Joe!
There's always next year.
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Joe, sorry to hear the news and I wish you a speedy recovery.
l told my pap and mam I was going to be a mountain man; acted like they was gut-shot. Make your life go here. Here's where the peoples is. Mother Gue, I says, the Rocky Mountains is the marrow of the world, and by God, I was right. - Del Gue
Hate to hear this, Joe. I sincerely hope that things start looking up for you soon!
Looking forward to seeing you again next year, wherever we land.
+1
If you're ever in need - I'm only a few miles away.
James Pepper: There's no law west of Dodge and no God west of the Pecos. Right, Mr. Chisum? John Chisum: Wrong, Mr. Pepper. Because no matter where people go, sooner or later there's the law. And sooner or later they find God's already been there.
For those not yet in contact, seems like we have some sad news . It has been reported that one of the original members of this SW Campfire gang, Thomas "Magnum" Belcher, passed away this morning. Tom - a very nice fellow, quick witted, avid shooter, loving father of two beautiful kids and husband of Brandy - has left us all too soon. RIP Thomas.
For those not yet in contact, seems like we have some sad news . It has been reported that one of the original members of this SW Campfire gang, Thomas "Magnum" Belcher, passed away this morning. Tom - a very nice fellow, quick witted, avid shooter, loving father of two beautiful kids and husband of Brandy - has left us all too soon. RIP Thomas.
Prayers for Toms wife and children. RIP brother. You will be sorely missed.
James Pepper: There's no law west of Dodge and no God west of the Pecos. Right, Mr. Chisum? John Chisum: Wrong, Mr. Pepper. Because no matter where people go, sooner or later there's the law. And sooner or later they find God's already been there.
That is sad news indeed, about Tom. Also Joe's situation!
Joe, you are in my prayers as well. We'll see you at the next Gathering!
As for Tom, he will be sorely missed. I'm sure his family is devastated. They were the center of his life, particularly his kids. Anyone who saw him with his kids could tell that. He had a heart commensurate with his physical size.
My prayers go out for his family.
I imagine that we will honor him at Armijo Springs as well.
Ed
"Not in an open forum, where truth has less value than opinions, where all opinions are equally welcome regardless of their origins, rationale, inanity, or truth, where opinions are neither of equal value nor decisive." Ken Howell
Looking forward to it. It’s been great over the years as this camp out has grown from collection of grumpy old farts to a full-bore family event. And no one has worked harder toward that than krp.
I do not entertain hypotheticals. The world itself is vexing enough. -- Col. Stonehill
Looking forward to it. It’s been great over the years as this camp out has grown from collection of grumpy old farts to a full-bore family event. And no one has worked harder toward that than krp.
Well said; though all of you have made felt welcome. I am grateful to be counted among you.
What an honor it is to spend a few days every year with folks whose paths wouldn't cross were it not for this get together. Some wonderful acquaintances and great friendships have developed through the years. A special thanks goes out to the folks that started this and sadly we remember each year those that are no longer with us. As always, look forward to making this event, God willing...
Anybody coming that owns a 6.5 PRC ? I accidentally grabbed a box while hoarding for my 6.5 Creed. Would like to swap for something, like maybe 22 WM. PM me.
I do not entertain hypotheticals. The world itself is vexing enough. -- Col. Stonehill
Anybody coming that owns a 6.5 PRC ? I accidentally grabbed a box while hoarding for my 6.5 Creed. Would like to swap for something, like maybe 22 WM. PM me.
I know that Blue has one. Doesn't Dennis have one, too?
Ed
"Not in an open forum, where truth has less value than opinions, where all opinions are equally welcome regardless of their origins, rationale, inanity, or truth, where opinions are neither of equal value nor decisive." Ken Howell
It's been way too long since we've seen each other, my friend!
Ed
"Not in an open forum, where truth has less value than opinions, where all opinions are equally welcome regardless of their origins, rationale, inanity, or truth, where opinions are neither of equal value nor decisive." Ken Howell
Anybody coming that owns a 6.5 PRC ? I accidentally grabbed a box while hoarding for my 6.5 Creed. Would like to swap for something, like maybe 22 WM. PM me.
I know that Blue has one. Doesn't Dennis have one, too?
Ed
No, he's got some 6.5 x .284 thingy. A fad purchase.
I do not entertain hypotheticals. The world itself is vexing enough. -- Col. Stonehill
Anybody coming that owns a 6.5 PRC ? I accidentally grabbed a box while hoarding for my 6.5 Creed. Would like to swap for something, like maybe 22 WM. PM me.
I know that Blue has one. Doesn't Dennis have one, too?
Ed
Ok, will bring them just in case.
I do not entertain hypotheticals. The world itself is vexing enough. -- Col. Stonehill
Anybody coming that owns a 6.5 PRC ? I accidentally grabbed a box while hoarding for my 6.5 Creed. Would like to swap for something, like maybe 22 WM. PM me.
I know that Blue has one. Doesn't Dennis have one, too?
Ed
No, he's got some 6.5 x .284 thingy. A fad purchase.
I can relate... I have a 6.5 x .280AI.
Does everything a 6.5PRC does but uses .280 Rem brass and a long action. You know, "old school".
Ed
"Not in an open forum, where truth has less value than opinions, where all opinions are equally welcome regardless of their origins, rationale, inanity, or truth, where opinions are neither of equal value nor decisive." Ken Howell
Talus, bring the 6.5 prc and we will work a trade, I have never shot any factory loads in my 6.5Prc, but I hear they work just fine and I can alway's add the brass to my pile. Rio7
Anybody coming that owns a 6.5 PRC ? I accidentally grabbed a box while hoarding for my 6.5 Creed. Would like to swap for something, like maybe 22 WM. PM me.
I know that Blue has one. Doesn't Dennis have one, too?Ed
No, he's got some 6.5 x .284 thingy. A fad purchase.
Hey now, maybe you ought'n to mind 'yer language with those "thingy" and "fad" utters. The 6.5 in the Win .284 case (rebated) might seem like some past fad, but maybe you guys were too young to remember when and why it became popular and a winner "thingy" with knowledgeable shooting/hunting guys. Back then, Sam May (Apex barrels) up near Flagstaff turned out quite a few and two of my buddies had them. Those barrels were ACCURATE and the cartridge design gave a performance edge over what many others and I were shooting at the time. I was mostly hunting then and the 6.5x55 seemed perfect for deer, easy/inexpensive to reload, Swedish Mil rifles were nicely finished, etc., etc.. - and I had not yet developed any taste for a hybrid. Later, when that taste developed a bit (and the kids were on their own), I went to the 6.5/06 and skipped right past the 6.5/284 Win idea. Have often wished I had given one a try, and Dennis' rifle seems excellent. Maybe it has an Apex barrel. In your experience, how does the 6.5/06 compare with these newer/fancier 6.5s? Mind you, I did not refer to those newer 6.5 "thingys" as a "fad"?
If you never met Sam May and discussed barrels with him, you missed some good moments. Same thought about Paul Marquart. While away from the SW for a while, I lost contact with Sam May and later went looking. He was in a nursing facility in NM and passed away there some years ago, apparently very much alone except for one fine caretaker.. Folks in a knowledgeable circle at the time said that some employee did Sam out of his barrel business (and other stuff) on a shady maneuver, but I do not know the veracity of that story. I simply know that he made accurate barrels (cut).
While I'm on here, some may have noticed that I've been divesting some stuff and plan to bring a this or that to the gathering for those who say "I'd like to have that". I hope to post some additional items soon - solely for giving away within this gang - but, simply have not gotten that organized yet. Shortage of time/stamina is a challenge these days.
I'd also like to sell some things, but definitely will NOT have anything for sale at the rendezvous. If someone decides to buy something through a PM beforehand, maybe I could deliver at AS. Not even likely that I'll get such stuff posted by then.
I'm really enthusiastic to share time with so many good folks again in August.
This is usually my one and only enjoyed vacation of the year.
My friends always ask if there are prizes etc. I always remind them that the prize is seeing old friends, and making new friends. Oh, and the bragging rights too.
Hoping that many of you have the chance to make it there this year.
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James Pepper: There's no law west of Dodge and no God west of the Pecos. Right, Mr. Chisum? John Chisum: Wrong, Mr. Pepper. Because no matter where people go, sooner or later there's the law. And sooner or later they find God's already been there.
Well - we're moving, but it mostly should be done by then. "The Warden"s getting a new double-wide, MUCH nicer - at company expense. We get to move twice - into a storage unit - then back! woo-hoo
I've always been a curmudgeon - now I'm an old curmudgeon. ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
Well - we're moving, but it mostly should be done by then. "The Warden"s getting a new double-wide, MUCH nicer - at company expense. We get to move twice - into a storage unit - then back! woo-hoo
Hell Mark, I’ll prolly just drive right on by the place in July loster then all hell!!! Hollerin’ something like where the hell are they???
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Well - we're moving, but it mostly should be done by then. "The Warden"s getting a new double-wide, MUCH nicer - at company expense. We get to move twice - into a storage unit - then back! woo-hoo
How many years has Joy been waiting for this new place?
I know you've been busy and all....
"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC
“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
James Pepper: There's no law west of Dodge and no God west of the Pecos. Right, Mr. Chisum? John Chisum: Wrong, Mr. Pepper. Because no matter where people go, sooner or later there's the law. And sooner or later they find God's already been there.
Well - we're moving, but it mostly should be done by then. "The Warden"s getting a new double-wide, MUCH nicer - at company expense. We get to move twice - into a storage unit - then back! woo-hoo
How many years has Joy been waiting for this new place?
I know you've been busy and all....
Been discussed for around 4 - 5 years, now! As Brian said - "Life gets in the way sometimes." But - we're just goofing off, most of the time !
I've always been a curmudgeon - now I'm an old curmudgeon. ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
Anybody coming that owns a 6.5 PRC ? I accidentally grabbed a box while hoarding for my 6.5 Creed. Would like to swap for something, like maybe 22 WM. PM me.
I know that Blue has one. Doesn't Dennis have one, too?Ed
No, he's got some 6.5 x .284 thingy. A fad purchase.
Hey now, maybe you ought'n to mind 'yer language with those "thingy" and "fad" utters. The 6.5 in the Win .284 case (rebated) might seem like some past fad, but maybe you guys were too young to remember when and why it became popular and a winner "thingy" with knowledgeable shooting/hunting guys. Back then, Sam May (Apex barrels) up near Flagstaff turned out quite a few and two of my buddies had them. Those barrels were ACCURATE and the cartridge design gave a performance edge over what many others and I were shooting at the time. I was mostly hunting then and the 6.5x55 seemed perfect for deer, easy/inexpensive to reload, Swedish Mil rifles were nicely finished, etc., etc.. - and I had not yet developed any taste for a hybrid. Later, when that taste developed a bit (and the kids were on their own), I went to the 6.5/06 and skipped right past the 6.5/284 Win idea. Have often wished I had given one a try, and Dennis' rifle seems excellent. Maybe it has an Apex barrel. In your experience, how does the 6.5/06 compare with these newer/fancier 6.5s? Mind you, I did not refer to those newer 6.5 "thingys" as a "fad"?
If you never met Sam May and discussed barrels with him, you missed some good moments. Same thought about Paul Marquart. While away from the SW for a while, I lost contact with Sam May and later went looking. He was in a nursing facility in NM and passed away there some years ago, apparently very much alone except for one fine caretaker.. Folks in a knowledgeable circle at the time said that some employee did Sam out of his barrel business (and other stuff) on a shady maneuver, but I do not know the veracity of that story. I simply know that he made accurate barrels (cut).
Sam's equipment ended up in a gun shop in Hereford, AZ. He was one of the pioneers of a 'gain twist barrel' if I recall correctly.
Yeh, I have a fad rifle, same caliber that has won as many long range championships as most all the rest combined!
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Well - we're moving, but it mostly should be done by then. "The Warden"s getting a new double-wide, MUCH nicer - at company expense. We get to move twice - into a storage unit - then back! woo-hoo
Hell Mark, I’ll prolly just drive right on by the place in July loster then all hell!!! Hollerin’ something like where the hell are they???
Bob, if you come in early July - we may be in a camper. That's when we'll be in-between homes. Homeless, so to speak!
I've always been a curmudgeon - now I'm an old curmudgeon. ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
Well - we're moving, but it mostly should be done by then. "The Warden"s getting a new double-wide, MUCH nicer - at company expense. We get to move twice - into a storage unit - then back! woo-hoo
Hell Mark, I’ll prolly just drive right on by the place in July loster then all hell!!! Hollerin’ something like where the hell are they???
Bob, if you come in early July - we may be in a camper. That's when we'll be in-between homes. Homeless, so to speak!
Hey, if its like around here... ya can always join the transients down under the overpass on the freeway...
July, I'm going to be on another one of my east coast road trips....the northern routes.. I'll be residing at the Hotel 4Runner, and be showering up at the Pilot Truck Stop Shower Emporium....
"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC
“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
As of now, there is a 90-95% chance I will be there. If the doctor doesn’t throw me into the hospital. Hopefully I’ll find out more about that next week. I really doubt he will.
Edit, sorry I missed your call other night Mark! I will try to give you a holler later this evening if I can.
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Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Thanks Paul! Im looking forward to it. Old son and a pair of cossacks may be accompanying me. Dunno yet.
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
As of now, there is a 90-95% chance I will be there. If the doctor doesn’t throw me into the hospital. Hopefully I’ll find out more about that next week. I really doubt he will.
Edit, sorry I missed your call other night Mark! I will try to give you a holler later this evening if I can.
I'll throw a first aid kit and a stretcher in the 4 Runner just in case....
Want me to bring ya a case of Hamms??
"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC
“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
No need for the Hamms. Ive really cut back on my libation consumption.
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
That's the concrete master on one side and the metal structure master on the other side - doing the do-si-do square dance with the two man auger. They dug sixteen deep ones in that hot AZ sun and then moved on to the more technical stuff. Hard workers. Good folks. Watch for more pics as we go.
Boy, y'all look like you need a TALL, COLD glass of iced tea.
Kent, if you're going down again, on a weekday, I'm avail on Mon, Tues, and Weds just about any week.
James Pepper: There's no law west of Dodge and no God west of the Pecos. Right, Mr. Chisum? John Chisum: Wrong, Mr. Pepper. Because no matter where people go, sooner or later there's the law. And sooner or later they find God's already been there.
Brian, Will you be bringing your Springfield 1911 again this year?
l told my pap and mam I was going to be a mountain man; acted like they was gut-shot. Make your life go here. Here's where the peoples is. Mother Gue, I says, the Rocky Mountains is the marrow of the world, and by God, I was right. - Del Gue
l told my pap and mam I was going to be a mountain man; acted like they was gut-shot. Make your life go here. Here's where the peoples is. Mother Gue, I says, the Rocky Mountains is the marrow of the world, and by God, I was right. - Del Gue
Spent the day at the range with Dennis. Y'all better be bringing your "A" game !
James Pepper: There's no law west of Dodge and no God west of the Pecos. Right, Mr. Chisum? John Chisum: Wrong, Mr. Pepper. Because no matter where people go, sooner or later there's the law. And sooner or later they find God's already been there.
John, Dennis is excellent and may be even better prepared this summer, but he didn't come close to winning it all last tie. Memory says that Ron (talented visitor with his old Mod 70 in .222 Rem) won the steel shoot and yours truly won the rimfire 25 yard shoot and the 100 yard high power deal. I think Dennis won the long range .22 rimfire shoot and the prairie dog shoot. Anyway, it was good competition and hope some others will shoot well and win this summer. Due to some problems in the meantime, I have not pulled a trigger since then, but will try to tune up a bit when I am back up at our mountain place..
Dennis and I have been very busy ourselves and have not yet gotten together at all on the shoot plans, so I will offer here to bring the targets etc. for the 25 yard rimfire, the 100 yard high power and the 200 yard prairie dog shoot. Probably will need some help from you guys with the target setups up and running those shoots. Maybe Dennis will take care of the stuff for the steel shoot and the long range .22 rimfire deal; We will try to get some rules posted soon.
I'll have the grendel with me. We'll burn up some powder.
James Pepper: There's no law west of Dodge and no God west of the Pecos. Right, Mr. Chisum? John Chisum: Wrong, Mr. Pepper. Because no matter where people go, sooner or later there's the law. And sooner or later they find God's already been there.
Decided to check my email last night as I was getting ready to turn in. Top mail was from the Magdalena Ranger District, headlined "Roberts Fire." Fortunately the fine print revealed that it was over in the San Mateos in the Apache Kid Wilderness. Whew!
Ben
Some days it takes most of the day for me to do practically nothing...
Thanks Ben, I suppose - although not liking to be reminded that much of the fun can go out of this event if we can't campfire and shoot in the Gila NF. It has been raining a bit this week and usually gets stronger soon - so we should be OK with the "too dry" issue. Now - no fires, please.
OK !! Dennis and I finally have been able to get our thoughts and preps together, so posted below is the info on planned shoots. All assistance you can give us on-site will be much appreciated. Get ready for big fun. P
August 2019 Armijo Springs Southwest Campfire Gathering Shooting Competitions
(competing shooters may not use the same firearm as another shooter in same event)
FRIDAY 8/2 5:00 pm – Rimfire Shoot Distance: 30 yards at a 1 or 2 inch target spot Firearm: rim fire sporting rifle with open or aperture sights (no scope or lighted lens) Position: any free position with various pods/shooting sticks OK, or at bench with firearm not touching Time once positioned: 4 minutes. Goal: smallest 5 shot group having at least one shot within the target spot.. 6:30 pm – Long Range .22 Rimfire Shoot Distance: 125 yards at a 3 or 4 inch target spot Firearm: .22 rim fire sporting rifle, any sights (not dedicated target/competition type rifle/sights) Position: any Time once positioned: 5 minutes Goal: smallest 5 shot group having at least one shot in the target spot
SATURDAY 8/3 8:00 am: Prairie Dog Shoot Distance: 200 yards Firearm: any sporting firearm with any sights (not dedicated target/competition type) and no sight-in shots at this 200 yard setup station prior to the contest Position: any Time once positioned: 3 minutes Goal: one shot, closest to center of a small dot (about 1/2”)
10:00 am – Center Fire Tight Group Shoot Distance: 100 yards Firearm: any sporting firearm with any sights (not dedicated target/competition type) Position: any Time once positioned: 5 minutes Goal: smallest three-shot group with at least one shot in the target spot
1:00 PM - Steel Shoot Distance: steels at approximately 100, 200, and 300 yards Firearm: any sporting firearm with any sights (not dedicated target/competition type) Maximum case capacity is 30-06 size or smaller with max velocity of 3300 fps, to save the steel – honor system. Position: any free position with various pods/shooting sticks OK, or at bench with firearm not touching anything except shooter’s body Time once positioned: 6 minutes Goal: 6 shots with at least one at each distance; must call each shot; points according to distance Shooting order determined by draw.
2:30 PM - Bowling Pin Shoot Distance: 25 feet shooting at 5 bowling pins 18” apart on a table Firearm: Handgun Position: standing Goal: Two shooters each match – winner is first to get all 5 pins off table. Double elimination format. Rules: For .17/.22 rim fire, pins are set 6" from the back of the table. For.38 special/9mm and similar cartridges, pins are set in the middle of the table. For cartridges larger than .38 Special, pins are set 6" from the front of the table, 18 shots allowed, but shooter must load only 6 at a time. To compete with .17/.22 rim fire, participants must be age 15 or under.
Kindly submit any questions/comments on this open forum
Bowling pin shoot question: How about allowing adults to shoot rim fire, but change the distance of the pin setting ?
Jeff
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James Pepper: There's no law west of Dodge and no God west of the Pecos. Right, Mr. Chisum? John Chisum: Wrong, Mr. Pepper. Because no matter where people go, sooner or later there's the law. And sooner or later they find God's already been there.
James Pepper: There's no law west of Dodge and no God west of the Pecos. Right, Mr. Chisum? John Chisum: Wrong, Mr. Pepper. Because no matter where people go, sooner or later there's the law. And sooner or later they find God's already been there.
I'd also like to suggest that people be able to sign up to shoot anyway they want ( or need to, due to health or physical restrictions) as long as they are not shooting for any type of prize or award.....
after making the trip, some of us just like to participate and hang out with the friends we have made...
winning a prize or award means nothing to me...anything I've ever won in a prize, I've given it away to someone who could use it..
or as an alternative, let each event me open, any style and skip the prize thing...
I make the trip just to hang out with some of the best folks I've ever had the pleasure to know...
"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC
“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
Hello John - we've always shot what most of us see as "varmint" type rifles in these contests and there is no change to that. The "no dedicated target rifle/sights" rule has been with us for a while and many of have used what we call varmint rifles. All good there. These contests were originally designed as friendly, inclusive challenges and we want to keep that alive.
Few or none of us would keep anyone from going to the line to shoot "outside the rules" during one of these specific activities, Then again, we fully intend for these to be contested for ratings and so we need rules to insure some sort of competitive fairness. We don't know the definition of "participation trophy".
So, maybe the way to best accommodate those who want to join a particular shoot using a firearm that does not meet requirements or shoot from a position outside the rules, would be to have the competitors get on the list and do their thing and then also have non-competitors shoot once the competitors are finished. Accommodating, yet there would be no confusion about judged winners of the competition. But, PLEASE, do not shoot over mass or fps beyond the stated limit so as to damage or ruin the shooting steels..
I'm not going to decide this on my own and would like to hear what Dennis thinks - and from others as well.
And, of course, we always try to provide plenty of shooting space and have a bunch of "hang out impromptu group shooting" going on for anyone who wants to enjoy such - that won't go away.
Thanks for the comeback Paul....I wouldn't be bringing anything that would harm any of the steel....
either 223 or 22.250 with varmint bullets that splatter on impact...
I didn't think it would be a big deal.. I've tried to fit into the 'non rest' rules.. but I have range of motion issues with my neck ( birth defect) that doesn't allow me to be able to shoot from a prone position, and off hand just isn't that good except to come in last place...which I really don't mind doing..
I just never liked competing with friends...character defect...because I can get overly competitive...
I just enjoy the shooting, and seeing how I do among my peers...nothing more...
hopefully will understand that idiosyncrasy of mine...
"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC
“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
Hey I did alright when I shot on my first trip there. ;-)
Yes, Ed, you did quite well. Are you going to come back for a repeat performance sometime? That would be really good.
I don't see a return happening given that Tonto is gone and we spend the three months of summer at our place in north Idaho. Frankly, I have lost all desire to shoot on the Campfire trips as the fun has been lost, for me at least. I won two of three the year I attended Tonto with simple stuff that I hunted with. When wind meters showed, well that's not for me. I will miss Ken's food though.
That's a bit interesting there Ed. All that most of us have ever shot at the Campfire events over the years are hunting/varmint rifles and carry handguns - that is totally true for me and some others I know. My eyesight is not so hot, but I don't remember having seen a wind meter at one of our friendly comp shoots - maybe one showed up and I was too dumb/inexperienced to know what it was. Anyway - our traditions have been to keep it to simple stuff and in recent times the winning has been spread around among some pretty good shooters who are also very solid peeps. If you were to come shoot with them again, you might get back some of your lost fun - or maybe a lot of it. Who knows - we may have another wintertime event, of some sort, in some sunny spot. I like seeing these folks twice a year, and it would be good if you were here as well.
(competing shooters may not use the same firearm as another shooter in same event)
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1:00 PM - Steel Shoot Distance: steels at approximately 100, 200, and 300 yards Firearm: any sporting firearm with any sights (not dedicated target/competition type) Maximum case capacity is 30-06 size or smaller with max velocity of 3300 fps, to save the steel – honor system. Position: any free position with various pods/shooting sticks OK, or at bench with firearm not touching anything except shooter’s body Time once positioned: 6 minutes Goal: 6 shots with at least one at each distance; must call each shot; points according to distance Shooting order determined by draw.
Kindly submit any questions/comments on this open forum
I noticed a couple of things that need to be changed in this format. In the steel shoot the only requirement is that you have to take at least ONE shot at one of the high value (white) targets. You can shoot all 6 rounds at the white targets if you feel frisky.
As far as sharing guns. The only shoots where this is an issue is the Prairie Dog shoot where you can get the wind from the other shooter as well as the vertical.
I don't see any issues with sharing a rifle for the 22 or steel shoot especially. The dots on the the shoots other than Prairie Dog are big enough that you should be able to hit them. The group size should determine the winners.
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Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.
Hey I did alright when I shot on my first trip there. ;-)
Yes, Ed, you did quite well. Are you going to come back for a repeat performance sometime? That would be really good.
I don't see a return happening given that Tonto is gone and we spend the three months of summer at our place in north Idaho. Frankly, I have lost all desire to shoot on the Campfire trips as the fun has been lost, for me at least. I won two of three the year I attended Tonto with simple stuff that I hunted with. When wind meters showed, well that's not for me. I will miss Ken's food though.
Joe did bring a wind flag one year to use with the 22s. He didn't win and anyone could have looked at it. It was tough keeping all those bullets on the dots at that range. I usually hang a few ribbons on the branches and stuff for the steel shoot since we shoot out to 300 yards.
I haven't shot in the steel shoot since the first year we did it- the year Mic McPherson showed up. I will this year.
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Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.
That's our guy Dennis - agree on description/rules to be posted and then think of things to change up. Then again, he's a good thinker and a good sport - I'm just fine with what all he said above.
D, In that you are going through the efforts to get, make, bring and set up the steels for that shoot, I will provide the targets for the:following: Rimfire 30 yard shoot (2 inch spot) 100 yard small group shoot (2 inch spot) 125 yard .22 rimfire small group shoot (4 inch spot) 200 yard Prairie Dog shoot (1/2 inch spot) The PD shoot was started at Armijo, so we will still have three dogs per target again - can't miss the fun when someone shoots another person's dog. If it seems better to go to single dog targets after the relocation, so be it.
All the best, to all.
P.S. If someone (again) can bring one or two pop-up shade covers, it will help make the shoots much more enjoyable, even for the spectators.. I think that I have one from last year. Thanks if you can help with this. P
It is about 99% sure I will make It. The plan is to fly to San Diego and pick up my son then we would drive there. He had surgery and may not be recovered so I would have to fly to AZ and numb a ride. Either way I would be flying and thus gun poor. I am really looking forward to seeing everyone again.
Patrick, you will be much missed and I'm sorry you can't make it. You and Leonard were at Armijo Springs for our very first gathering there, and for most of those since, so I was figuring you would make the last one as well. Let's figure that you will be part of the next one at the new summer venue.
Probably time to get a count. Dennis is seeing Alberta and Kent is busy working - so I will request that we chime in here and soon if coming - and how many in your group? Maybe arrival plan as well. Thanks.
Ed & Kat (Kathryn) will be there Thursday afternoon/evening.
Ed
"Not in an open forum, where truth has less value than opinions, where all opinions are equally welcome regardless of their origins, rationale, inanity, or truth, where opinions are neither of equal value nor decisive." Ken Howell
Definitely will be there on Thursday--Crystal just reminded me that a two-day art workshop gets under way at our place at 10:00 AM that morning! Good time to be gone.
Ben
Some days it takes most of the day for me to do practically nothing...
I'll be there. Most likely on Thursday... But maybe Wednesday.
I have an acquaintance from my HAM radio club that my be coming also.
James Pepper: There's no law west of Dodge and no God west of the Pecos. Right, Mr. Chisum? John Chisum: Wrong, Mr. Pepper. Because no matter where people go, sooner or later there's the law. And sooner or later they find God's already been there.
Count me me in..... I'll be by myself. Plan on getting there early.
Paul, I haven't read the thread. Is Kent in charge of the cooking? In the past, I would bring 6 or 7 dozen eggs for one of the meals.... is this ok? Need some guidance on what to do.
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Hi Randy - it is just great that you will be with the gang again and coming early - - - about time !! We've missed you and your louzeeana charm. We have eggs for breakfast and Kent sure will cook them. So, good move.
Brian, If you want I can check at Ft. Thompson (NLR gun shop). They usually have a pretty good variety of ammo. I was there a few days ago getting large pistol primers. As it turned out, that was the only primers they had. Strange, is the supply short? They had lots of powder, but no primes except the large pistol. miles
So far, we seem to have the following tally. If you are coming and not listed here, my apologies for missing your name – and please chime in soon.
If you are listed here and not planning to come, please change your mind.
All, please pardon not inserting screen names this time - a lot is on the plate today.
Miles Patton Darby Ken and Judy Dennis and one buddy Kent and Cheryl Brian Randy Mark and Joy Jeff P Jeff H and maybe one buddy Ben Mark and Marcia Tracy and maybe 2 daughters Ed and one buddy RiverRider John C Jim M Blue Paul and Maddy
James Pepper: There's no law west of Dodge and no God west of the Pecos. Right, Mr. Chisum? John Chisum: Wrong, Mr. Pepper. Because no matter where people go, sooner or later there's the law. And sooner or later they find God's already been there.
I will be there!!!!! With old son, and two grandsons in tow! One has new .36 caliber percussion rifle he’s itchin’ to put some ball thru!!!
Bob
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Tracy - sorry to hear this - we will miss you a bunch.
Bob - great news !!
So, the roster now looks something like this:
Miles Patton Darby Ken and Judy Dennis and one buddy Kent and Cheryl Brian Randy Mark and Joy Jeff P Jeff H and maybe one buddy Ben Mark and Marcia Kaywoodie plus three Ed and one buddy RiverRider John C Jim M Blue Paul and Maddy
Alas, I must withdraw my own invite. Too much going on to get away. I apologize if I have caused any inconvenience.
Dang- was looking forward to catching up with you.
Same here. Just too much going on here and not enough time and money. We have a new political Captain and a major encampment found UNDER a street about 100 yards from an elementary school. These drug addicted homeless are like cockroaches. I am helping to coordinate the removal and reclamation of the site, as well as trying to manage the 226 RVs inhabited by the aforementioned drug addicts. The PUC-Wastewater and Sewage Treatment have me on speed dial as the State Water management Quality Board is about to hammer the City due to the levels of untreated human waste bacteria in the bay. The fines are based on the premise that the City is not properly treating the sewage and just releasing it into the bay. What the system does take in account is that up to 8000 people daily are dumping their "Honey Buckets" into the storm drains which lead out to the bay. As two of the test sites are in my district and I have a good knowledge of who is who at the street level, I am being consulted weekly if not daily on the whereabouts and activities of the homeless. Though I have no rank, I am in great demand. I am less and less of a cop and more and more a "fixer".
Tracy, any chance you can send your wife and/or those wonderful daughters? It has been great to have good folks like the Greens at our gatherings. Sad to hear, but understand well, that duty calls, often when we had other plans. We will miss you.
Bob. . . bring your harmonica. Good to hear that you will attend.
Brian, big thanks for your hospitality last year; I'm bringing my own accommodations this year and am willing to share. Someone who needs a roof over their head is welcome at my camp. You might want to bring a cot to get off the floor of the utility trailer.
krp- - nice work on the fishing expedition, thanks for the fun photos. As always we truly appreciate all your contributions to the success of this shebang. I'll bring coffee, foam plates, plastic cups and some cash to help keep this tradition going. Caffeine is more important as I age. Gracefully, I hope.
“You must endeavour to enjoy the pleasure of doing good. That is all that makes life valuable.” Robert E. Lee, in a letter to his invalid wife.
My daughter Julia and I (Kevin) are planning on attending.
Does anyone know if Anjin (Norman) and his daughter Mary will be attending? Julia is anxious to see Mary again.
Tracy, sorry to hear that you can't make the trip this year. I was hoping we would have a chance to catch up and Julia was looking forward to seeing your girls.
Are any kids going to be there this year?
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l told my pap and mam I was going to be a mountain man; acted like they was gut-shot. Make your life go here. Here's where the peoples is. Mother Gue, I says, the Rocky Mountains is the marrow of the world, and by God, I was right. - Del Gue
I have deliberately waited until the last days to communicate my last minute decision of whether I can come or not. As some of you know, I underwent serious back surgery 3 months ago, in San Francisco. The recovery that I was ignorantly hoping would be over in several weeks is apparently taking several months. My Dr is pleased with my progress, which to me is painfully slow. He now says he expects me to be in pretty good shape when he next sees me in October. Wow. He does consider the surgery a success, and I am glad I had it, as I was in a bad way. It just takes damaged nerves a longer time than I expected to heal and settle down. I could have been on Norco continuously for the past 3 months, but all the stories about addiction scare me enough that I have only been taking it a couple of times a week when I really needed to. So pain has been my companion.
Every week or two I can definitely see slight improvement, and the pain is gradually decreasing. I am doing Physical Therapy twice a week, which I believe is helping, also. My biggest recovery goal and reward I had set up for myself, was this trip to Armijo Springs to spend some quality time with such a fine group of friends. My wife and I sat down and had a heart-to-heart discussion today and decided that there is just no way that I am ready to take such a long trip from our home in Northern California to New Mexico and back at this time. By the time I made it there I would probably have to spend most of my time in the bed, and wouldn't be able to enjoy visiting with folks. I might set back my recovery, and I don't want that. Every day when I climb out of bed I check to see if a miraculous leap in my recovery has taken place over night, but it hasn't happened.
So, my friends, I will be there in spirit, but not in body. I will be eagerly watching for posts and pictures. I hope I can make it to the next get-together at the new location. Have fun, and safe travels to all.
Milo
Nifty-250
"If you don't know where you're going, you may wind up somewhere else". Yogi Berra
Your recovery is what counts, not your nose, Milo.
We will hoist an additional beverage in your honor, but we will be hard pressed to find another "greeter" with your skills. I certainly appreciated the welcoming information you provided at Tonto.
Best wishes and keep up with that PT schedule.
“You must endeavour to enjoy the pleasure of doing good. That is all that makes life valuable.” Robert E. Lee, in a letter to his invalid wife.
Just for folks to think about and discuss... The Tonto event has run it's course and the reason for it. But if some still want a winter event then many of us will come. I would come to an event that I'm not hosting, 2 was getting to be to much, I would help cook and all but would like the option of throwing a camp in the truck bed and just showing up... Somewhere in the southwest... Someone would have to host.
Take care of yourself Milo. Your health is your number one concern.
Kent, I fully support you. No reason that we could not gather and just be on our own for meals, or share with each other.
James Pepper: There's no law west of Dodge and no God west of the Pecos. Right, Mr. Chisum? John Chisum: Wrong, Mr. Pepper. Because no matter where people go, sooner or later there's the law. And sooner or later they find God's already been there.
Just for folks to think about and discuss... The Tonto event has run it's course and the reason for it. But if some still want a winter event then many of us will come. I would come to an event that I'm not hosting, 2 was getting to be to much, I would help cook and all but would like the option of throwing a camp in the truck bed and just showing up... Somewhere in the southwest... Someone would have to host Kent
Kent, recently I've been thinking along similar lines and have half an idea - well, maybe not quite half yet - for some kind of easy SW winter get together. More later. P
Milo - thanks for your message - and you know that we will miss you. There will be a joyful next time. Just happenstance, but a few months ago I was reading what you posted about the back surgery in SF and feeling sympathy for you - understanding all too well. At the end of 2018 I underwent a long hospital treatment followed by 6 weeks of lock down while on IV antibiotics in a battle against a threatening spinal infection. By mid February I was weak as a kitten - had plenty of pain and could do almost nothing. All of that on top of a complete right bicep separation from the cuff not long before the spine infection was diagnosed, Once the tide was turned, willing myself off the heavy oxycodone was a must - and it worked to steadily decrease the dosage to zero - took 4 weeks, during which I began to push myself very hard physically, That has helped a lot, although I'm not all the way back and still face the shoulder replacement some day before too long. I report the above very reluctantly but have done so with the thought that this may help to encourage a very good man during a time of disappointment.. So, YES, do the PT religiously and get back to our Campfire.
My daughter Julia and I (Kevin) are planning on attending.
Does anyone know if Anjin (Norman) and his daughter Mary will be attending? Julia is anxious to see Mary again.
Tracy, sorry to hear that you can't make the trip this year. I was hoping we would have a chance to catch up and Julia was looking forward to seeing your girls. Are any kids going to be there this year?
just the over 21..... make that over 51 types....at least as far as I know...
I will attempt to act more respectable than usual.
Milo,
sorry you won't be there.. at the same time.. I'll give a wave when I pass thru Redding tomorrow...
just concentrate on taking care of your back at this time...
"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC
“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
l told my pap and mam I was going to be a mountain man; acted like they was gut-shot. Make your life go here. Here's where the peoples is. Mother Gue, I says, the Rocky Mountains is the marrow of the world, and by God, I was right. - Del Gue
I only met you and your lady once and your food was amazing. but I bet most of the crowd would miss you far more than they would miss your food. So I suggest you be legendary and let some of us try to shine in the cooking department. Though when I make it back, and if I am cooking anything, suggestions will be gratefully accepted.
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